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post #1 of 164 Old 11-06-2010, 02:35 PM Thread Starter
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Hey, new guy here... please help! Engine trouble!

I got a 1999 Grand Cherokee with 219k miles. I just did an oil change (not enough money to buy the filter though) and used transmission fluid (i had a couple of quarts laying around) instead of conventional oil. My friend said that tranny fluid is like synthetic pretty much anyways. Well after I drained the oil, I ran water through the engine to clean out the gunk. (the guy who owned before me obvioulsy didn't know how to maintain the engine). Of course I didnt start the engine with the water in it. First i put in the synthetic (transmission) oil. I filled it all the way. I started my car and after 2 minutes, it starts making bad smokee and then the engine stopped. When I try to start, i can hear the starter, but it is not spinning. I think somehow I got water on my starter and it seized? Any help would be much appreciated! Oh, btw, it's a 8 banger engine.

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Can enyone sell me a starter for very cheap?
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I would never had run water in it. That was very bad. And Always use Motor oil in your Motor. I dont think its a stater problem.

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I would never had run water in it. That was very bad. And Always use Motor oil in your Motor. I dont think its a stater problem.
It has to be the starter. It doesn't have enough power to spin the engine anymore...
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post #5 of 164 Old 11-06-2010, 02:42 PM
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Cleaning your engine with water is like fertilizing a garden with motor oil.

Just give us some quarters so we can get drunk.

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I might have to take the previous owner to court. He sold me a lemon, i think.
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Cleaning your engine with water is like fertilizing a garden with motor oil.
I don't understand? How else am I suppose to clean the gunk in the engine?
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they make stuff to add to the engine oil to clean it... seafoam is one of them
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Not with water for sure.

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they make stuff to add to the engine oil to clean it... seafoam is one of them
You are wrong. Seafoam is to only clean the cylinders of your engine, not the components being lubricated by motor oil.
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Not with water for sure.
Well unless you have a better idea, I do not want to hear your negative comments. You are just an ethug!
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Yes, they have products to clean it, or you could tear it apart and do it manually. Plus, have you ever tried washing oil off your hands with just water? It doesn't do anything.

Just give us some quarters so we can get drunk.

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Yes, they have products to clean it, or you could tear it apart and do it manually. Plus, have you ever tried washing oil off your hands with just water? It doesn't do anything.
It got rid of the gunk... I wasn't trying to remove the slippery lubrication, just getting the semi solid oil gunk pieces out of the engine. My dad is a mechanic, and he said that was fine. How many cars have you worked on?
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Well unless you have a better idea, I do not want to hear your negative comments. You are just an ethug!
They make an engine oil flush. Its at all part stores. Sorry I wasnt trying to push you around. I was just stating it was a bad idea.

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post #15 of 164 Old 11-06-2010, 02:59 PM Thread Starter
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They make an engine oil flush. Its at all part stores. Sorry I wasnt trying to push you around. I was just stating it was a bad idea.
Bad idea? Are you really going to threaten me like that? I am just here for help. I don't want any trouble with anyone...
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