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Unread 01-02-2013, 12:11 PM   #121
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I'm very interested in this kit. I was told that it is "inferior" to IRO and Clayton's long arm kits and that parts were not reliable. But the person did not mention in which ways it was "inferior." The only thing I can think of that would be weak might be the X-flex joints??? RC says they are rebuild able which to me sounds like a plus. I know they can be replaced with jonny joints also. I'm really having a hard time believing that this kit is inferior.
I know that RC, in the past had the reputation of being a cheap lift kit and quality was substandard to other higher priced kits. Someone a long time ago told me: "having a rough country lift kit is like sleeping with a fat chick; sure it's fun to ride, but you don't want to be seen with it."

I really think Rough Country has changed over the years. I'm depending on this kit to be a solid lift. I can't afford the IRO or Clayton long arms. I like that the RC kit is complete (rear long arms) where this is another $1000 through IRO.

My plan/hopes were to get the RC kit (minus the springs) and go with some 6" springs from another kit. Any thoughts on if this can be done?

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Unread 01-02-2013, 12:15 PM   #122
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i dont believe the RC arms are adjustable enough to run 6'' springs......as in they are not long enough. I guess you could do it, but RC did not design them for 6'' according to the feed back ive seen
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Unread 01-02-2013, 01:01 PM   #123
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i dont believe the RC arms are adjustable enough to run 6'' springs......as in they are not long enough. I guess you could do it, but RC did not design them for 6'' according to the feed back ive seen
I asked a rep on there online chat thing and he told me that they were adjustable to up to 6 inches of lift I would call and ask just to be sure though.
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Unread 01-02-2013, 01:47 PM   #124
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The long arms are most definitely long enough for 6". I'm running the kit as is, at 4" and pretty much all of the arms are adjusted all the way in. The uppers on the front radius arms are the only ones that are not threaded all the way in and I still have plenty of room for adjustment on those. All the joints are rebuildable but honestly, they seem beefy enough to last quite awhile. I'm not worried about about the longevity of this kit whatsoever.
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Unread 01-02-2013, 02:17 PM   #125
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The long arms are most definitely long enough for 6". I'm running the kit as is, at 4" and pretty much all of the arms are adjusted all the way in. The uppers on the front radius arms are the only ones that are not threaded all the way in and I still have plenty of room for adjustment on those. All the joints are rebuildable but honestly, they seem beefy enough to last quite awhile. I'm not worried about about the longevity of this kit whatsoever.
thats good to know....i heard from someone running it that they wouldnt really work for 6'' springs....oh well, i wonder why they dont offer them then?
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Unread 01-02-2013, 02:48 PM   #126
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thats good to know....i heard from someone running it that they wouldnt really work for 6'' springs....oh well, i wonder why they dont offer them then?
I just went and asked the online Chat help (josh)
and they said that it can be used up to 6" lift

He said no higher than 6"
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Unread 01-02-2013, 06:49 PM   #127
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Is anyone running this setup with IRO coils? I compared the free lengths of the two coils and the IRO coils are over two inches taller than the Rough Country. That is what I am considering doing along with IRO trackbar. I was just wondering what the difference would be, or if the IRO coils will offer more lift height than 4". Any thoughts?

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Unread 01-02-2013, 06:54 PM   #128
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Is anyone running this setup with IRO coils? I compared the free lengths of the two coils and the IRO coils are over two inches taller than the Rough Country. That is what I am considering doing along with IRO trackbar. I was just wondering what the difference would be, or if the IRO coils will offer more lift height than 4". Any thoughts?

Front IRO= 18.75"
Front RC= 16.18"
What lift height are your coils supposed to be? Free length doesn't matter without spring rate. If the IRO coils are softer than RC's (probably), then they'll compress further with weight on them.
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Unread 01-02-2013, 07:07 PM   #129
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Good to know on the 6". Thanks guys. I was looking at the IRO critical path kit, and (don't bash me) from the pictures, it didn't look like the arms were any different from the 4" kit to the 6" kit. Just the springs.
I'm really starting to lean more towards the RC kit. When i have the coin saved up, I think I'm going to have to get it. Did anyone use their JF discount when they bought it from RC?
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Unread 01-02-2013, 08:25 PM   #130
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I'm running this kit w RC 4" and 2" bb. I'm wanting to put taller springs and trash the spacers, how do I know how much to adjust everything? And what springs would you guys recommend?
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Unread 01-09-2013, 08:13 AM   #131
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Good to know on the 6". Thanks guys. I was looking at the IRO critical path kit, and (don't bash me) from the pictures, it didn't look like the arms were any different from the 4" kit to the 6" kit. Just the springs.
I'm really starting to lean more towards the RC kit. When i have the coin saved up, I think I'm going to have to get it. Did anyone use their JF discount when they bought it from RC?
I tried to apply the JF discount and didn't have any luck
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Unread 01-12-2013, 02:55 PM   #132
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Can someone explain the set up in the rear? Why is it the stock "short" a-arm with lower long arms? Doesnt the shorter a-arm limit the long arms on the bottom? Whats the point?

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Unread 01-12-2013, 04:23 PM   #133
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Can someone explain the set up in the rear? Why is it the stock "short" a-arm with lower long arms? Doesnt the shorter a-arm limit the long arms on the bottom? Whats the point?

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The RC 4" long arm kit comes with the upper as well.
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Unread 01-12-2013, 04:28 PM   #134
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But the RC rear upper is the same length as the stock a-arm right? It's the same just adjustable compared to long rear uppers like clayton upper arms or the IRO long a-arm. Or am I mistaken?
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Good to know on the 6". Thanks guys. I was looking at the IRO critical path kit, and (don't bash me) from the pictures, it didn't look like the arms were any different from the 4" kit to the 6" kit. Just the springs.
I'm really starting to lean more towards the RC kit. When i have the coin saved up, I think I'm going to have to get it. Did anyone use their JF discount when they bought it from RC?
Go to the vendors section. And contact bobby from ccor he will give you a jf discount. I'm ordering my long arm kit on Friday. Good luck
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