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post #301 of 504 Old 03-02-2013, 12:32 PM
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One thing I dislike about this kit is the crossmember design.

Been studying on it

Decided to cut the control arm mounts off, and use the new IROR high clearance x-member instead, along with a hack and tap SYE on the 242HD. I'll run some weld on the brackets so they can't move when the x-member is out.
It will still drop the xfer case about 1/4 inch (the thickness of the RC LA brackets) but will gain 1-3/4" clearance under the x-member. And make it removeable without dropping the lower front arms.

Plus put the front output back to a closer to stock angle

I'll take pics and notes along the way. Thinking I can mod and reuse the stock x-fer case skid, and use the RC skid up front under the oil pan.
ever since i saw there high clearance x member i have thought the same thing, i know im getting the RC long arm kit in a week or two and was thinking of doing the high clearance x member later this year in addition to making some more skids, so will def want to see what u come up with


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post #302 of 504 Old 03-02-2013, 12:39 PM
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And just an FYI, the RC crossmember drops the xfer case 1 inch. Not sure how much lower it actually hangs compared to the stocker. I know the RC xfercase skid hangs down a good bit.

I had the same thoughts way back when I did my RC lift on my truck. I hate those drop torsion bar xmembers.
I found a company called Real lifts that made dog bones to relocate your torsion bars back up to stock...
Lost count of the number of people asking me what body lift I have since that xmember is in the stock location, not hanging down 2 inches!

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I have heard a few on here comment that the long arm kit improves the ride of their WJ. I was wondering in what way it is improved.

A friend owns a Mercedes G wagon which comes with a factory long arm setup and one huge difference I have noted is that when going over rough terrain at mild speeds the suspension seems to "eat up" bumps without transferring too much bumpiness to the chassis. So there isn't the tendency to get thrown around so much. does this long arm kit make similar ride characteristics off road?
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The longer the arm, the more parallel it is to the ground, so suspension inputs are sent up the springs, versus control arms to body.

Especially on a short arm lift, at say 4 inches, those stock, short control arms are pointing up at a pretty steep angle, and transmit quite a bit of suspension shock to the chassis.

Not to mention the average WJ has 100K miles on it, so you are replacing old hard bushings, worn springs and shocks, with new parts that move quite a bit easier.

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And just an FYI, the RC crossmember drops the xfer case 1 inch. Not sure how much lower it actually hangs compared to the stocker. I know the RC xfercase skid hangs down a good bit.

I had the same thoughts way back when I did my RC lift on my truck. I hate those drop torsion bar xmembers.
I found a company called Real lifts that made dog bones to relocate your torsion bars back up to stock...
Lost count of the number of people asking me what body lift I have since that xmember is in the stock location, not hanging down 2 inches!
Umm, no it doesn't. It keeps it exactly where it is stock. And the skid doesn't hang any lower than the stock transfer case skid.

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Umm, no it doesn't. It keeps it exactly where it is stock. And the skid doesn't hang any lower than the stock transfer case skid.
Really? I just asked RC tech about it and the 1 inch drop is what they told me.

Thats a good thing if it doesn't drop the tranny any!

If thats the case I can just add some tabs to the RC crossmember and make it removeable.

Sure looks like it hangs lower than stock in the pics, and most lifts at 4 and above do drop the xfer case.

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post #307 of 504 Old 03-02-2013, 03:00 PM
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Umm, no it doesn't. It keeps it exactly where it is stock. And the skid doesn't hang any lower than the stock transfer case skid.
X2. The transfer case stays exactly where it is. The new cross member has the same dimensions as the stock one. The new one just has the LA mounts.
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Finally got the wheels and tires mounted up..still have to wait until next week for the alignment. I like the way it looks.
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Very nice looking jeep. GOOD JOB!
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Very nice looking jeep. GOOD JOB!
Thank you! Its been one hell of an adventure..and its still not over.
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I'm glad mine is done too. I was so beat from crawling around under the jeep drilling holes and such. It's a nice kit and am happy with the results. As far as the crossmember and skid. I didn't notice it hanging any lower than stock. I think the xfer case is lowered but with the design of the crossmember it is not noticeable. And whoever asked about the length of my arms I added only an inch and a half to the directions recommended length but had to tweak them a bit. Ill get an actual measurement if needed. And here are some level shots. I have lots of room in the wheel wells but still can't decide on a tire size. I'm running 265-75-16 and they look small but stuff like mad. Haha.
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post #312 of 504 Old 03-04-2013, 06:30 PM
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I'm glad mine is done too. I was so beat from crawling around under the jeep drilling holes and such. It's a nice kit and am happy with the results. As far as the crossmember and skid. I didn't notice it hanging any lower than stock. I think the xfer case is lowered but with the design of the crossmember it is not noticeable. And whoever asked about the length of my arms I added only an inch and a half to the directions recommended length but had to tweak them a bit. Ill get an actual measurement if needed. And here are some level shots. I have lots of room in the wheel wells but still can't decide on a tire size. I'm running 265-75-16 and they look small but stuff like mad. Haha.
I like the way those tires look. Plus it will keep the weight down. If you go to a bigger size your probably going to get stuck with a load range E. I don't think it looks bad at all. Very nice Jeep!
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Hey soupy what size bump stops are you running.

I don't understand how I seem to be the only one to have had a problem with the brake line and abs line getting pinched between frame and control arms (where upper and lower arm bolt together). The abs line cut got straight in half. Clean cut though just hope my brake line doesn't get cut in half.

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Hey soupy what size bump stops are you running.

I don't understand how I seem to be the only one to have had a problem with the brake line and abs line getting pinched between frame and control arms (where upper and lower arm bolt together). The abs line cut got straight in half. Clean cut though just hope my brake line doesn't get cut in half.
Did you ever post a pic of this? If you routed them correctly, I just don't see how this is even possible.

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post #315 of 504 Old 03-04-2013, 10:08 PM
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no went to take a pic today but my camera/iphone broke. Ill post some up Tomorrow. Hopefully I just routed them wrong and its a simple solution. I just don't see anything in directions on where to reroute them. Only thing I see about brake is Added the extension on the axle.

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