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Unread 08-02-2012, 12:16 PM   #1
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Grab a cup of coffee and a comfy chair...

Hey, new member, hello. Before we get started let me say that I've scoured this site and searched until I could search no more. I see a lot of lingo and acronyms, and as a new guy to 4WD terminology, it's lost on me for the time being.

So here's the deal:

I've got a bone-stock 2000 Grand Cherokee Laredo. I've looked at endless pictures and seems like a 4" lift is what I'm after along with a new set of wheels/tires. I'd love to find some newer 17" Jeep wheels to use, for what it's worth. So...

I'll be having the suspension work done, anyone make a recommendation for Kansas City? Which kit to use, suspension or body lift? Is it that simple? Do I need anything other than what is in the kit?

I won't be using the thing for any serious off-roading, just want a nice, tasteful lift and wheels and tires to go with it.

Will my speedometer still be accurate? I can't see how, on my motorcycles any change in wheel or tire size would throw it off. I'm guessing there is a speedo healer for Jeeps, too?

What am I getting in to? Do these lifts cause premature replacement requirements for steering/drivetrain components?

Also, as a former Wrangler owner, I fell in love with the GC because of the ride and capability. How much of that gorgeous, smooth ride am I going to sacrifice with a lift, if any? I won't be going too crazy with tires, just a little more beefy as again, I'm not doing anything crazy with it.

Thanks for any and all help. If I've totally missed something that would answer all my questions, feel free to turn me in that direction and give me a nice shove. Thanks again.

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Unread 08-02-2012, 12:20 PM   #2
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Unread 08-02-2012, 12:26 PM   #3
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All Grand Cherokee's are Uni-Body meaning you can't use a body lift. If you aren't going to wheel it then talk to Kolak (vendor on this forum) about the OME lift kits. It will still ride nice and look great. All lift kits will cause some sort of premature wear on parts.

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Unread 08-02-2012, 02:02 PM   #4
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If you're not actually wheeling it on serious stuff, don't overthink it. Do a two inch spacer lift for "pennies", your ride won't be affected, it will have the most minimal effect on component life, and you'll have room for a bit more meat on your rims. Save your cash for gasoline.

As for installing a spacer lift... handle it yourself (assuming you aren't physically handicapped, my apologies if this isn't an option), it's easy and will give you more confidence in your knowledge of the machine you drive. And save you a few more bucks.
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Unread 08-02-2012, 02:12 PM   #5
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Do the suspension work your self. Everyone around here seems to charge an arm and leg. Or let me put it on for you.
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Unread 08-02-2012, 03:42 PM   #6
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ZeJokee, generally I'm mechanically inclined. Built a few hot rods in my day, but I've never even attempted suspension work. I had a cousin lose his upper and lower front teeth from a spring. Granted, he was an idiot, but since then I've shied away from it. Anyway, I'm not against it but I don't have the work space for anything beyond maybe a belt or brake replacement.

Thanks for all the input. Maybe 2" would give me what I'm looking for, which is basically just a little more height. The GC seems to sit a bit too low for me but most importantly I don't want to affect the way it rides. I love the ride on road trips (I put about 25K miles a year or more on my cars).

Ruggedscotsman, while I appreciate what you linked, good lord man, I'm brand new to this stuff. It's funny though, I've been wrenching for years but most everything in that link is going over my head.

ZeJokee, if you'd like to make a little side cash and you're not a complete ******* (lol, sorry, jaded from meeting people from the internet), I'd gladly give you the work. I'd probably love to pick your brain, too. So you might want to figure that in on your price
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Unread 08-02-2012, 04:26 PM   #7
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keep in mind your old jeep is probably sagging, new springs shocks and isolaters can add over an inch with stock components.
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Unread 08-02-2012, 04:55 PM   #8
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I would be glad to help you do it and show you that suspensions can be dangerous if you do not take precautions and are stupid. You will also learned a lot about your WJ and how it works. A 12 pack or 2 and I'll be glad to help. Just PM if you are interested. I live in Raytown and work in Belton so Shawnee isn't too far for me.
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Unread 08-02-2012, 05:07 PM   #9
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I would also replace your spring isolators. They contribute to you losing ground clearance. I would definitely talk to Kolak though. The Old Man Emu springs ride nice especially with the Bilstein shocks.
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Unread 08-02-2012, 06:35 PM   #10
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I live in Overland Park. I have an 04 Overland w/ 3" iron rock offload lift, IRO control arms (all the way around), addco, old man emu front spring spacers - 3/8", wheel spacers, bilstiens, 31" Nitto terra grapplers and some other stuff. I like the setup a lot! If you want to check it out pm me and we can work something out.
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Unread 08-02-2012, 06:40 PM   #11
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4 inches will affect your ride quality on short arms. If you go to long arms, the ride will still be nice. However, LA's are pricey. I would do as has been suggested and get a BB.

Tire size will make your speedo incorrect. The only way to fix this on the 99-01 JGC's that I know of is to modify the signal sent from the ABS to the speedo. This can be done for about $70 using a module that was designed for motorcycles (12 o'clock labs). MoonyJohn and 801DubJay are two that I know of that have info on this in their builds, others likely have install info as well.

My opinion: If it will not be used offroad, stick with a Budget Boost. Other opinions:
Most BB lifts are equal, your price difference will come from the shocks you choose to run.
If you decide on a 4 inch short arm kit, I would go with Iron Rock Off Road.
If you decide on a long arm 4 inch kit, I would go with Iron Rock Off Road (bolt on) or Clayton's (weld on)
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Unread 08-02-2012, 07:09 PM   #12
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Ill make the drive to help out too. I'm in Manhattan but nobody around here has wj's its all tj/xj's. Let me know when!

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Unread 08-02-2012, 07:37 PM   #13
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Ill make the drive to help out too. I'm in Manhattan but nobody around here has wj's its all tj/xj's. Let me know when!

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Off topic but when i first read this i thought that's a hell of guy to go from NY to KS to help install a lift. I figured it out moments later but still found it amusing.

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Unread 08-02-2012, 08:03 PM   #14
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Haha. Everyone needs a vacation. However I have made that drive before and it's actually rather comfortable in my wj

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Unread 08-02-2012, 09:11 PM   #15
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Cr3nshaw-as you see basically everyone on here is like a friend that you don't know. Buy a case of beer and they will be your best friend and be there to help you. As suggested all suspension shops will rip you off. Do it yourself or with the help of others.
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