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post #1 of 77 Old 08-27-2014, 07:12 AM Thread Starter
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Good bright head light bulbs

Hi what are some good bright headlight bulbs for my wj mine are pretty dim want to get some brighter ones and also what are the correct size any help would greatly be appreciated thanks


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post #2 of 77 Old 08-27-2014, 08:43 AM
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Philips HIR 9012's:

http://www.amazon.com/Philips-9012-S...ds=philips+HIR

If you pull the retaining ring from your headlight housing (3 torx bolts), you can drop these headlights in with zero modification to the housing, the bulb or your wiring harness. The best part is you are getting an actual increase in lumens compared to the standard 9006 bulbs that WJ's call for, even overdriven 'high output' 9006 bulbs don't stand a chance against HIR's:

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...ulb_types.html

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9006/HB4 55 1000
9006/HB4 +30 55 1095
9012/HIR2 55 1870

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Sweet thanks so much I will have to do this much appreciated do you put the retainer back in or do you leave it out thanks

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You put it back in, otherwise the bulb would fall out.

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You put it back in, otherwise the bulb would fall out.
Ok thanks so much I guess that makes sense lol. Does only one bulb come in a pack? thanks again for all your help

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Yeah, Amazon was the cheapest place I found 'em.

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Some of the reviews on Amazon say that these don't have a black tip and to make sure your housings have a deflector to prevent from blinding oncoming drivers. Do these work OK in our housings without the black tip?

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Philips HIR 9012's:

http://www.amazon.com/Philips-9012-S...ds=philips+HIR

If you pull the retaining ring from your headlight housing (3 torx bolts), you can drop these headlights in with zero modification to the housing, the bulb or your wiring harness. The best part is you are getting an actual increase in lumens compared to the standard 9006 bulbs that WJ's call for, even overdriven 'high output' 9006 bulbs don't stand a chance against HIR's:

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...ulb_types.html
That does not look like a HIR bulb, they are usually rounder. Also the stock bulbs are a straight connector, not the 90 degree ones that won't fit.
Maybe they changed the design, not sure the 90 degree will fit.
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Some of the reviews on Amazon say that these don't have a black tip and to make sure your housings have a deflector to prevent from blinding oncoming drivers. Do these work OK in our housings without the black tip?
Yes. The deflector you're talking about is the part inside the housing that covers the bulb on the low beams. I would not recommend these in the high beam position for that reason.

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That does not look like a HIR bulb, they are usually rounder. Also the stock bulbs are a straight connector, not the 90 degree ones that won't fit.
Maybe they changed the design, not sure the 90 degree will fit.
The HIR's you're referring to are the older design. From my reading online once Philips took over manufacture of the bulbs and introduced the Gen 3 bulbs (the ones I linked to) they redesigned the bulb to reduce the 'warm up' time of the Gen 1 and Gen 2 bulbs.

You are however correct that these are not an 'OE' replacement in terms of the 90* base connector vs. the straight base connector that WJ's (and other select Chrysler models) use. That is why it is necessary to remove the bulb retainer ring from the headlight, otherwise you wouldn't be able to plug the wiring harness into the bulb. Installation of these bulbs means you will need to completely remove the headlight housing, remove the 3 torx bolts (T15 IIRC) for the headlight retainer ring, install the new bulb, plug the harness in, and reinstall the retainer ring. As I mentioned earlier, there's no modifications needed to be made to your WJ or the bulb to use them, you just need to modify the installation process.

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And now the all important photos of light output would be appreciated!
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And now the all important photos of light output would be appreciated!
I'll see what I can do, I don't have any 'before' photos, but I could take comparison photos of my wife's WJ which has the HIR's installed vs. my WJ with unknown stock type bulbs.

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I'll see what I can do, I don't have any 'before' photos, but I could take comparison photos of my wife's WJ which has the HIR's installed vs. my WJ with unknown stock type bulbs.
That would be greatly appreciated thanks jeeples

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^ As above, that would be good, I have some idea of stock beams so would be good to see how these match up. I'm running some whiter 51W halogens but thinking about HIRs
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Try homedepot.com They had the lowest price for HIR2 Philips bulbs, when I was looking a few month ago. Lower than eBay or Amazon. Online store only. Good luck
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I retrofitted my headlights so the inside high beams projectors (outside projectors are bixenon hid) are running HIR's and they keep up pretty well with the HID'S. Of course they are not that much competition, but you can notice when the HIR's are on or not over the HID's.

Just I thought I would add my 2 cents since no one had made the comparison.

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