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Unread 12-02-2013, 12:54 PM   #1
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Wj Frozen Tie Rod Ends

Hey all,

So, among everything else that I'm dealing with and replacing in my front end, I decided I might as well do the tie rod ends while everything is torn apart. However, the old ones are seriously rusted in there. I've soaked them with liquid wrench and let them sit overnight. I tapped on the crack in the tube with a cold chisel and hammer. No dice.

I have the feeling that this is probably fairly common and other people have dealt with it. Anyone have any advice apart from turning them red-hot with a torch and beating on them? I have four of these things to deal with.

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Unread 12-02-2013, 12:56 PM   #2
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Replace that bar and save your self headaches
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Unread 12-02-2013, 12:58 PM   #3
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Replace that bar and save your self headaches
For some reason, I hadn't thought of that. I'd actually have to replace two bars. There is the one from the steering pitman arm to the passenger side knuckle. Then there is the connecting rod that goes from the passenger side to the driver's side.

God I hate rust.
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Unread 12-02-2013, 01:12 PM   #4
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Replace that bar and save your self headaches
x2. Both the drag link and the tie rod are relatively cheap. It could also be a good time to upgrade to the JKS or KOR HD versions if you plan on wheeling the WJ.
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Unread 12-02-2013, 02:20 PM   #5
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X3 on what was said about replacing the rods as well. I had to grab a torch and get the ends of the rods red hot and then clamp a vice grips on the rod and another on the tie rod end and step on both of them simultaneously to turn them in opposite directions to get it to budge. What I thought would be a hour long job turned into a 4 hour job and a trip to walmart for a torch. But, plus side is I now have a torch.
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Unread 12-02-2013, 02:31 PM   #6
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And whatever you decide to replace, coat the threads with Anti-Seize, prior to installation.
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Unread 12-02-2013, 03:44 PM   #7
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And whatever you decide to replace, coat the threads with Anti-Seize, prior to installation.
I coat nearly everything with anti-seize. Lol I avoid putting it on things such as lug nuts, however. ;-)
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Unread 12-02-2013, 04:14 PM   #8
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I coat nearly everything with anti-seize. Lol I avoid putting it on things such as lug nuts, however. ;-)
My buddies all make fun of my excessive use of anti seize, but I'm never the one having to torch off any bolts anymore.

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Unread 12-02-2013, 04:19 PM   #9
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And whatever you decide to replace, coat the threads with Anti-Seize, prior to installation.
Best advice I've read on this forum in awhile.

I recently switched to the marine grade, which was recommended to me by a trusted friend. Good stuff.
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Unread 12-02-2013, 06:14 PM   #10
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Your new tie rod ends will especially love you for that. And your lug nuts will be glad you didn't !

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I coat nearly everything with anti-seize. Lol I avoid putting it on things such as lug nuts, however. ;-)
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Unread 12-10-2013, 10:04 AM   #11
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So, I did end up simply purchasing a new tie rod. That made that part of the job fairly mindless. And I slathered the ends in copper anti-seize (not that I expect I'll be doing this job again anytime soon).

Somehow, I dropped the ball and did not get the rod that goes from the pitman arm to the passenger's side. Fortunately, my leaking power steering fluid made the pitman side easy to get off. The other side...wasn't.

I soaked it with liquid wrench. I heated it for five minutes with a torch. I beat on it with a cold chisel and hammer. Eventually, I put the bar in two vices, side by side, put a pipe wrench on the tie rod end and beat the life out of it with a hammer. After about ten minutes of this, and constantly re-adjusting the vices, it moved. At that point, I put machine oil in the slit on the rod and continued beating. Some more oil, repeat. Once I'd made a full revolution with the oil, it started to get a lot easier. And, eventually...I won. lol

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Unread 12-10-2013, 10:19 AM   #12
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i hate having to replace the tie rods its always a chore but the acetylene torch makes it easy
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Unread 12-13-2013, 12:42 AM   #13
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Summit racing. I bought two tie rod ends and the bar all moog. 87.00 dollars US.
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Unread 12-13-2013, 04:49 AM   #14
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I lost the tip of my middle finger removing a driver side tie rod. That was rather unpleasant. Anti seize is your friend.
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Unread 12-13-2013, 06:28 AM   #15
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Rock Auto is also your friend. The replacement bars are actually more beefy than stock.
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