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post #1 of 22 Old 10-02-2013, 11:01 AM Thread Starter
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Wj Ford Dana 60/10.5 swap from a 99-05 F350

Ok, I've looked here, Mallcrawlin, Pirate4x4, and couple other places and I can't seem to find any info on swapping a 99-05 Ford F350 D60/10.5 setup into a WJ. So with that said if I missed it I sincerely appolgize. Now to the questions. Is there anyone here running that setup? If so do you have any pics? And if not does anyone know of a build that uses that setup? Sorry for all the questions, just trying to get an idea of what all was involved and what it looks like.

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this dudes in my club:

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f22/p...-11-a-1269073/

its a TJ but hes running the 60/10.5..........its quite impressive

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Thanks for sharing. I'm going to check through it all soon. Thanks for posting, anyone else who's used or seen a build thread using them let me know please.

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No one that I know runs that set-up.

The 10.5 pumpkin is huuuuuge. Plus, little aftermarket support.

What is the width? I couldn't find anything reliable with a quick search.

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It's no bigger than a 14 bolt. My biggest want for them is I work at a Ford dealer and have access to any special tools needed for them plus the experience of several good Techs that are good with them. Which is a plus because I don't have a clue with diff work. I know I could do it just don't know the in's and out's. As far as the aftermarket support, there is more than enough aftermarket for what I would want to do. And I also like the idea of having disc brakes out of the gate instead of trying to source an oem setup or buying new aftermarket.

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Well, yes, it's no bigger than the 14 bolt but the 14 bolt is huge. What size tire do you plan to run? And again, what is the width?

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A quick google search says 67 and 68.875 on the 10.5. So to know for sure I'll have to measure one at work. And tire size is not decided at this point. When this happens and it's no longer a daily driver I'll go as big as I can.

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Get a good WMS measurement. The WJ is ~64".

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Daniel (Bama_Wj) is in the process of putting those axles in his wj.

There is another wj on Pirate running the rear 10.5

I am also in the process of building a 10.25 for my wj as well, but mine will be paired with a 8 Lug HP44

IIRC mine measures just about 69", so your google measurement is probably correct.


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Daniel (Bama_Wj) is in the process of putting those axles in his wj.

There is another wj on Pirate running the rear 10.5

I am also in the process of building a 10.25 for my wj as well, but mine will be paired with a 8 Lug HP44

IIRC mine measures just about 69", so your google measurement is probably correct.
Thanks TJSWJ that's the measurement I came up with also. And does Bama_WJ have a build thread with any info on the swap yet? I'll check out Pirate on the WJ with the 10.5, I must have missed it.

Just to add a little more to this and why I'm leaning to the 60/10.5 setup, I just checked LKQ there closest yard is about an hour and a half away. And a D60/60 setup out of say a 3/4 ton dodge is about $750 for the rear and $1000 to $1100 for the front. I can get the 60/10.5 out of a Super Duty for $300 to $400 for the rear and $400 to $500 for the front. Now I know there are better options and probably better deals out there, but I can't seem to find any right now. Not that I'm going out today to get the axles. I've got a list of parts that needs to be assembled first before I buy the axles.

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http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f197/...thread-747214/

The only obstacle ive seen with the late model 60's is the lack of space on the driver side axle tube. It makes it very difficult to run a coil spring suspension. Most people overcome this by adding a truss, or just using coilovers.


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Craigslist is always a good source for full widths. Any luck there? I'd look there first over LKQ and the like.

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Craigslist is always a good source for full widths. Any luck there? I'd look there first over LKQ and the like.
There are axles there, but a lot of them want more that LKQ. That being said, I'm sure that if cash is present that lower prices would probably easy to negotiate. Now I just need to sell a kidney to fund this little project...

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I just remembered that SaturnICL used those axles in his "Escape Artist" build.
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f197/...rtist-1287677/


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Whats up with the unit bearing on those? Are they a potential weak point? Is there a cheap way to change them out?

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