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Unread 05-03-2011, 06:49 AM   #1
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DRB III Diag tool

I picked up this tool aka toy and love it
It's the factory tool that enables complete access to the PCI bus and all components within the system. A simple visit to the factory web site to download the flash files and check for recalls etc. My 2002 Overland shop manual calls for this tool so I broke down and purchased one.

Just wondering how many of you guys picked up one of these tools for your Jeeps

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Unread 05-03-2011, 06:51 AM   #2
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Where did you buy it from? How much?
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Unread 05-03-2011, 07:01 AM   #3
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Miller SPX Tools on the web - they have loads of Chrysler / Jeep specific stuff
$6.5K when all said and done
Not cheap but in my mind well worth the price since I keep my Jeeps forever
Both Jeeps are "older" and have the old style PCI bus as compared to the new CAN bus communications
A while ago I did some contract work to help justify the cost but not anymore. None of the local repair shops have this specific tool, they had to send their customers 150 miles away to get a simple Flash upgrade or modification to a controller module
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Unread 05-03-2011, 10:17 AM   #4
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I have a few scan tools and adding more as deals come around.

Chrysler DRB 3 enough said.


Ford Rotunda/Hickok Next Generation Star Tester - Ford dealership scan tool, Same idea as the DRB3 for Chrysler


OTC Genisys This scan tool is used by most private repair shops. It does engine, ABS, airbag scans among many other things on North and South American, Asian and European cars. It also scans transport trucks. It also does flash programming on GM cars, but unlike the dealership scan tools it will not program keys or key fobs.


Autoxray 6000 This is a a high end consumer level scan tool which will scan OBD2 generic and factory engine and transmission codes on North American and Asian made cars from the 1980's to present. It also has a handy dandy battery tester.
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Unread 05-03-2011, 03:09 PM   #5
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OK I'm impressed

I no longer have any FORDS "aka" Found On Road Dead vehicles to take care of but do a few Chevy's along with the Jeeps, Kubota tractors, Honda engines and off road machines, etc.

Sure is nice having the proper tools to get the job completed
I like your collection
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Unread 05-03-2011, 03:26 PM   #6
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i don't have one due to the cost of buying one around me can buy a new car. been looking for one use cheap but no luck

u spent 6.5K on it, that major mod money over time for some of us on here. have fun with it.
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Unread 05-03-2011, 03:36 PM   #7
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New car for $6K I like it where do you shop
Guess I don't shop in the same place as you
Figured a new Jeep Overland will run at least $40K
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Unread 05-03-2011, 03:39 PM   #8
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New car for $6K I like it where do you shop
Guess I don't shop in the same place as you
Figured a new Jeep Overland will run at least $40K
I think he meant new as in new to him personally, not in year.
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Unread 05-03-2011, 03:54 PM   #9
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sorry lol new used. were in a wj fourm that they stopped making in 04
2011 Jeep Overland is around $43K around me/
smart car new is $11K
i know you can but a new car with a few miles that was totaled for about 10K if you want to work on it.

but yea most people on here pay that much for there wj or less
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Unread 05-03-2011, 09:21 PM   #10
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I'm still working on getting a Starmobile. Seems that there are a lot of clones coming out of China which would be just fine if they didn't have a such high failure rate. The GM Tech2 and Ford IDS systems are being cloned the most.

I find it funny when people rant about the price of scan tools. They tend to be the same people that whine about paying $100 for a scan since it only takes a few minutes and needs the use of the so called over priced scan tool.

Most people fail to understand that the times have changed. The 1970's are long gone and simple hand tools aren't enough anymore. If a factory trained technician needs these tools to properly repair a car what makes people think that they can get away with anything less in their backyards.
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Unread 05-03-2011, 09:24 PM   #11
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Yeah but that new car with a few miles that was totaled for about 10K still needs a scan tool to reset the airbag computer after it has been repaired.


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sorry lol new used. were in a wj fourm that they stopped making in 04
2011 Jeep Overland is around $43K around me/
smart car new is $11K
i know you can but a new car with a few miles that was totaled for about 10K if you want to work on it.

but yea most people on here pay that much for there wj or less
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Unread 05-04-2011, 09:56 AM   #12
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The WiTech ,Starscan and Starmobile only work on Controller Area Network (CAN) protocol systems. The Grand Cherokee did not use a CAN protocol until 2005. The only model that they support in 2004 is the Durango. The Starscan has been discontinued since 2009. As for the DRB3 there are no more updates for it since 2008. Unlike the Starscan and Starmobile which was replaced with the WiTech. The DRB3 has no replacement and is the only dealer level scan tool that supports non-CAN Jeep/Chrysler/Dodge vehicles.





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The stealership I work at has a recent scanner called the WiTech. All wireless. Most dealers have these now though. You plug it in to the OBD port and do everything at the computer.
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Unread 05-05-2011, 07:22 AM   #13
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I believe the "older" Chryslers / Jeeps used the PCI bus protocols, which are not compatible with the newer mandated CAN bus protocols, which all cars use today. The way I understand it is that some / maybe all of the OBD II codes are compatible but the inner workings of each of the modules are totally different. The DRB III is required for 1999 > 2004 Grand Cherokee and 1997 > 2006 Wranglers for configurations, flash upgrades, etc.
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Unread 05-05-2011, 09:48 PM   #14
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Me too. You're welcome.


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I know, I was just saying. Thank you.
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Unread 05-06-2011, 09:02 AM   #15
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No no no, thank you.
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