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Unread 01-23-2011, 01:10 PM   #61
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Thanks. What I ment by the upper shock mount was if they fit right in. Or if the sleeve and bushing were undersized like every other aftermarket shock. Bilstein seems pretty top notch ,so I guessing they fit right. Not like these other brands where the shock # cross references to different makes of vehicles. Then you wonder why the valving seens like it's set up for a 3/4 ton truck and they don't fit without modification.

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Unread 01-23-2011, 03:51 PM   #62
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Not the best pic, and not the same location, but here ya go.
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Unread 01-23-2011, 09:04 PM   #63
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would of it been easier to just compress the coils and swap the isolators instead of redoing everything?
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Unread 01-23-2011, 09:10 PM   #64
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I don't think so. I have a spring compressor and power tools to make it easier. I guess you all seem to think this is a lot of work. It was actually more work making this thread than doing the physical job.... and I had my fiancee do the work the second time and she has never once turned a wrench. It still only took 3 hours.

It is really this easy:
Jack up vehicle
Remove wheels (5 nuts)
Loosen bottom bolts of shocks (2 bolts/nuts)
Remove sway bar end link (1 bolt)
Remove spring (it almost falls out)

Again... NO NEED FOR A SPRING COMPRESSOR WHEN THE SPRING PRACTICALLY FALLS OUT ON ITS OWN.
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Unread 01-23-2011, 09:59 PM   #65
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ok i see your point.
being in the rust belt the less bolt i have to take off the better for any job.
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Unread 01-24-2011, 09:40 PM   #66
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Great thread Richard. Thank you!
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Unread 01-24-2011, 09:51 PM   #67
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I was about to ask about spring compressor but I got it now. great thread.
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Unread 01-26-2011, 12:47 AM   #68
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Thanks. What I ment by the upper shock mount was if they fit right in. Or if the sleeve and bushing were undersized like every other aftermarket shock. Bilstein seems pretty top notch ,so I guessing they fit right. Not like these other brands where the shock # cross references to different makes of vehicles. Then you wonder why the valving seens like it's set up for a 3/4 ton truck and they don't fit without modification.
I never actually answered this.

Yes, the rear Bilsteins fit fine. The OEM bolts are stepped and seat perfectly into the sleeves at top and bottom of the shock. The box they comes in even says "WJ 2" lift" on it unlike a lot of shocks which somehow cross reference back to a Ford F250. Not a coincidence you mention a 3/4 ton truck...
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Unread 02-06-2011, 09:55 PM   #69
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OK so I spent all weekend wheeling, did 11 miles of technical trails, climbs/descents at an ORV area on Saturday and did 43 miles of Back-country travel on old wagon roads in Eastern WA.

Springs and shocks did great. I was very glad I lifted as there were a lot of areas I knew I would not have made it without a lift. I only scraped maybe a half-dozen times and hit a rock slider once. I ran disco'd on Saturday, not disco'd today. I was never wanting for flex and the off-road ride was decent. We hit a lot of terrain today that was much harder than the ORV area, stuff much harder than I expected, and the lift/QuadraDrive/SilentArmors didn't let me down. Only my 29" tires kept me from climbing an aggregate ledge where I didn't have enough purchase to get up. I also pulled out a stuck K5 Blazer and the WJ didn't even squat, just pulled and he was up.

One issue - aired down to 15psi, the left rear tire rubbed a little on the shock. I am running no rear swaybar right now but it is going back on. With the right end links, the rear isn't as limited by the sway bar as the front.

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From Sunday (getting more soon from my friend who took pics of me whilst I took pics of him):



That was a 35º-45º hill climb, 1500' elevation gain on loose rocks/rubble. Holy hell it was hard!



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Unread 02-06-2011, 11:07 PM   #70
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awesome pics man. Good looking ride .
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Unread 02-06-2011, 11:10 PM   #71
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Nice write up man, nothing but the best from you!

I can second the coil isolater problem. Mine were so rusted that I could not get the new coils bases to sit down 100% (only about half way on actually)...at the time I didn't realize what the problem was, and for the life of me, and a lot of grease, just couldn't get them on. I popped off the isolaters, and the perches were so rusted that the expanding of the rust caused the perch diameter to be waaaay too large....it had actually stretched them out so much that the new ones could sit inside the upper part of the old ones. anyway, I wire brushed the hell out of them, and hit them with a bunch of marine grease. I didnt do the rears at the time because they weren't giving me a hard time like the fronts. When I add my 3/4" spacers to the rear though, I will be doing new lower isolaters!
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Unread 02-06-2011, 11:20 PM   #72
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Nice write up man, nothing but the best from you!

I can second the coil isolater problem. Mine were so rusted that I could not get the new coils bases to sit down 100% (only about half way on actually)...at the time I didn't realize what the problem was, and for the life of me, and a lot of grease, just couldn't get them on. I popped off the isolaters, and the perches were so rusted that the expanding of the rust caused the perch diameter to be waaaay too large....it had actually stretched them out so much that the new ones could sit inside the upper part of the old ones. anyway, I wire brushed the hell out of them, and hit them with a bunch of marine grease. I didnt do the rears at the time because they weren't giving me a hard time like the fronts. When I add my 3/4" spacers to the rear though, I will be doing new lower isolaters!
How many miles are on your jeep (the factory isolators) just kinda wondering, also same question to billz. My 04 WJ only has 49000 miles on it.
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Unread 02-06-2011, 11:23 PM   #73
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Well I had 113k on it when I lifted it...but regardless of miles, you've had 4000lbs of metal sitting on 8 rubber blocks for the last 8 years.
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Unread 02-06-2011, 11:37 PM   #74
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Well I had 113k on it when I lifted it...but regardless of miles, you've had 4000lbs of metal sitting on 8 rubber blocks for the last 8 years.
Yeah I thought about that , still time on there. Was just kinda wondering though. Ill def at least do the bottoms, thanks.
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Unread 02-07-2011, 12:58 AM   #75
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Great write up I will be ordering my springs, shocks and isolators soon

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