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Unread 01-24-2012, 09:16 PM   #1
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Cold Air Intake?

Does anyone have any recommendations on a nice and good cold air intake for a 2004 grand cherokee 4.0 LS

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Unread 01-24-2012, 09:25 PM   #2
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No such thing. You can get a k&n or make your own, but its going to be a warm air intake and wont do much if anything at all as far as performance.
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Unread 01-24-2012, 09:57 PM   #3
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i run dry ice in my stock airbox
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Unread 01-24-2012, 10:00 PM   #4
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i run dry ice in my stock airbox
I thought about that for a second, thought it would work, but then i thought harder and realised that dry ice emits CO2, so... your engine most likely wouldnt even start. Hah.

Funny though.
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Unread 01-24-2012, 10:01 PM   #5
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i run dry ice in my stock airbox
I've already got one of your quotes in my sig... you just keep em comin! LOL
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Recently installed a K&N on my 4.0

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Unread 01-24-2012, 11:05 PM   #7
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I got a K&N and noticed a differance. And the sound is worth it alone. But im not sure how it will do in the 100 degree summers but i guess i will find out.
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I have a K&N with a heat shield on my 4.7. According to my Ultragauge reader, the inlet air temperature is usually about five degrees warmer than it was with the stock box. I don't think 5*F would make that much of a difference, and it does sound a lot cooler... Just my $0.02
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I have a K&N with a heat shield on my 4.7. According to my Ultragauge reader, the inlet air temperature is usually about five degrees warmer than it was with the stock box. I don't think 5*F would make that much of a difference, and it does sound a lot cooler... Just my $0.02
So your new intake is warmer than the stock one or am I reading that wrong?

Also fun fact, whenever I read your name, I can just think "There can only be one" (Yes I know its spelled "MacLeod" in the Highlander series, still just makes me lol)
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So your new intake is warmer than the stock one or am I reading that wrong?

Also fun fact, whenever I read your name, I can just think "There can only be one" (Yes I know its MacLeod in the Highlander series, still just makes me lol)
Yes, you're reading it right. It's technically a FIPK (Fuel Injection Performance Kit or something like that). They're supposed to increase performance because they're "less restrictive" than the stock air box.

I don't know of any true cold air intakes out there for a WJ. A real cold air intake is supposed to pull cooler air from somewhere other than the engine bay.

An engine's potential to make power is a function of the temperature difference between the inlet and the combustion chamber (as well as a couple other things). If you can get cooler air in, or get the engine to burn hotter, there is a larger potential for power. Some math to prove it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_cycle

Bottom line up front, there may be power gains from the less restrictive air flow. There may be power lost to the smaller heat differential. You'll have people that will swear by both arguments. But, it sounds cool as hell.

Most CAI's are some variation of this--the air going into the engine is from outside of the engine bay and supposedly cooler:


A FIPK looks like this, with the inlet still inside of the engine bay:
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Bottom line up front, there may be power gains from the less restrictive air flow. There may be power lost to the smaller heat differential. You'll have people that will swear by both arguments. But, it sounds cool as hell.
Any chance of a video to show, or rather let us hear the difference in noise? I'm curious to what changes.
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there is a loud suction and swoosh noise. as mccloud showed above if you could reroute where the air comes from that goes to filter it would be better. I like the FIPK to clear things up a bit and make it easier to do work. I got mine done for 15$ including filter. Really wouldn't want to spend the flow on the kits
peyton good stuff amigo. although i definitely did a triple take the first time i saw it!
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I'll just make my own... Haha. Maybe ill do a write up..
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I made mine and powder coated it when i port and polished and powder coated my throttle body. works great!!! wiht as much that is open under the filter keeps cool air coming in, i noticed much better throttle response, sounds cool, and a bit better gas milage



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No such thing. You can get a k&n or make your own, but its going to be a warm air intake and wont do much if anything at all as far as performance.
thats pretty much what i have heard. it may help response just a little but the sound is the biggest difference.
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