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Unread 09-01-2014, 09:40 PM   #16
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Yeah, after working at it for an hour or so, the well itself looks immaculate, not a trace of debris or dirt, save for the o-ring segment. The other immediate option I have available is a vacuum cleaner; I'll find a small, flexible tube and tape it to the end of the hose as suggested and see if that can grab it. You're right, I think the failing of the can of air is that the blast coming through the straw is too localized and not enough pressure, and it's not able to get underneath the rubber to lift it.

I was ready to throw in the towel and just drive it to the shop, but I'm going to give the vacuum a try. We'll see how it goes.

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Unread 09-01-2014, 10:03 PM   #17
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That thing will burn up so quick that you will never notice it. Rubber is made of petroleum. I wouldn't worry so much if it fell in the combustion chamber.
This.

A piece of metal I'd be concerned about, part of a small o-ring? Eh, not so much. Pull the plug, see if the o-ring, or part of it, comes out with it. If not, I wouldn't worry too much about it.

If it really concerns you, then pull the plug, get that cylinder to TDC, and go to town with a shop vac. You could likely get some tubing/hose from the local hardware or parts store to size it down to it in the spark plug well and suck it out of the cylinder.
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Unread 09-01-2014, 11:44 PM   #18
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Duct Tape a straw to the vacuum hose. I wouldn't think it would hurt anything even if it did fall in.
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Unread 09-02-2014, 06:37 AM   #19
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How about dropping in a little rubbing alcohol to see if it will float enough to grab it or vacuum it out with the liquid? If it does not work, the alcohol will evaporate and or can be vacced back out.
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Unread 09-02-2014, 06:58 AM   #20
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The rubbing alcohol won't hurt a thing in the cylinder. IF the o-ring floats you are gtg. Gotta post the final result!
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Unread 09-02-2014, 07:12 AM   #21
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Ever Heard of Blu Tac??? Seriously.. I've used a little blob of this on numerous occasions to get something out or in. In fact the last time I used it was Sunday passed where by I had a screw that there was no way in hell that it would go back in without falling off.. a dollop of Blu Tac later and Aye Viola Job Done!!!

Another possibility that I've also done is a tiny drop of Instant Glue.. even thread lock does the same.. just enough to hold it in place whilst you do what ever.. Been There Done That and my T shirt is getting pretty worn.....
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Unread 09-02-2014, 02:13 PM   #22
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How about dropping in a little rubbing alcohol to see if it will float enough to grab it or vacuum it out with the liquid? If it does not work, the alcohol will evaporate and or can be vacced back out.
Now this is a neat idea! Good thinking with the alcohol.

You fellas have provided many ideas that I will give a try, but you've also provided some much-needed solace. I'll give these things a shot, but if it ends up falling in, I won't fret. This is another one of those times when I know enough to be informed (don't let things fall into the chamber), but not enough to be knowledgeable (rubber will burn up, it can't fall between the piston and wall and throw a rod, etc).

This may have to wait until the weekend when I have free time, but I absolutely will post back with the results. If you have more ideas or experience with items in the well and/or chamber, by all means continue posting them until then.
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Unread 09-02-2014, 02:27 PM   #23
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You really think it's a good idea to run rubbing alcohol through a shop vac?
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Grease, pick+air, shop vac all good suggestions but that rubber o-ring will not damage anything if it falls in and will burn up and become ash in first startup.

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Unread 09-02-2014, 03:05 PM   #25
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Ever Heard of Blu Tac??? .....

Yeah I'm thinking the same thing... it's also called Fun Tac. I'd pull the spark plug and attach a wad of Fun Tac on an end of a pencil and dip it down in the hole until the o-ring sticks to it.
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Unread 09-06-2014, 06:44 PM   #26
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Hey fellas,

I'll make a long story short for anyone who searches this thread in the future: tried all the suggestions (save for the alcohol, didn't feel comfortable sucking flammable liquid through the vacuum). Nothing worked. Ring fell in (I think?) the moment the plug was out.

Vehicle started up and ran beautifully. Nothing bad happened, not even a burp. Thank you for the info and ideas!
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Unread 09-06-2014, 10:32 PM   #27
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Hey fellas, I'll make a long story short for anyone who searches this thread in the future: tried all the suggestions (save for the alcohol, didn't feel comfortable sucking flammable liquid through the vacuum). Nothing worked. Ring fell in (I think?) the moment the plug was out. Vehicle started up and ran beautifully. Nothing bad happened, not even a burp. Thank you for the info and ideas!
I'm glad it worked out okay for you. Thanks for letting us know.

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