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Unread 08-27-2011, 07:33 AM   #1
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Cherokee or Grand Cherokee?

What are the advantages or disadvantages of each? Which one gets the best mileage in the 96-01 years?

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Unread 08-27-2011, 08:29 AM   #2
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Oranges to Tangerines.

close but not quite the same.
Are you looking for something to cruise around in leather seats, or looking for something to build up and romp around in?
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Unread 08-27-2011, 09:01 AM   #3
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You have to specify this much better, theese two Are completly different Jeeps.

Also for Grand Cherokee There is a model change in 99, pre is the ZJ, after is the WJ. The WJ and ZJ only share 127 parts so its also two complete different Jeep.

For the Cherokee (XJ)i dont know, but they Are pretty simple and lack of comfort compered to Grand's.

Only thing they have in common is the 4X4 systems and the Jeep logo as far as i know.

If you read in the XJ, ZJ, and Here WJ section, you can find out more.
Also a simple surch at wickipedia Will give you a great deal of info about the different models.

Also wjjeeps.com is a great site That offers amount of info about 99-04 models Grand's.

Good luck.
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Unread 08-27-2011, 09:02 AM   #4
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interresting,
I am currently shopping around for an XJ to replace my ZJ, our family vehicle is a WJ.
My ZJ is the 5.2 ltd, it's my daily driver and I put a woping 6mi on it a day.
The reason I'm "downsizing" to an XJ for my DD is simply becuase of operating and maint cost, the XJ will be cheaper to maintain and in turn operate.
If my family did not have the WJ I would not consider downisizing to the XJ based shearly on room, power and comfort.
the WJ;
WAY more room
more comfort
better ride
"worth more"
more "standard" features
arguably under powered with the 4.0
V8 option

the XJ;
WAY and I mean WAY more rugged !
cheaper operating costs
4.0 is the PERFECT mate for this jeep
feels more like a jeep
available option of the 231
posibilty of a 5sp
can be found in 2 door
cheaper price
probably a little better MPG vs the WJ WITH A 4.0
cheaper to build


I've always loved the XJ's I grew up around XJ's, but the ZJ and WJ has always fit my application better, having a family but still wanting to get dirty offroad.

BTW the 4.0's are bulletproof, someyears better than others but no matter what year you should run a good HDEO in it, as it is a noisy flat tappet style engine that loves heavier duty oils.

FWIW, my 2 cents

I'm, sure i'm missing some things

another thing to consider is what you do with your vehicle, (driving habbits)
If most of your miles are hi-way miles than the V8 WJ is the only option IMO
if you mostly rack up miles "in town" than consider a 4.0 which then gives you the option of the XJ, also if you tow than agian the V8 is the only way to go.
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Unread 08-27-2011, 11:16 AM   #5
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A friend of mine owns an XJ (totally stock) and it rides rough and feels cramped compared to the WJ. The interior also feels like it was designed in 1984. The 4.0 was a good motor until they put them in WJs...the last iteration of the I6 seems to have weak pistons.

WSAR really covered a lot of the main points I would make. A couple other points - the non-disco HPD30 and Corporate 8.25" axles in the XJ are great. The LPD30 and D35 combo are ok in the WJ, the D44a is a little better. I would say the XJ has stronger axles for its size.

XJ is much cheaper to get into and will depreciate less.

Also, if this is a family vehicle, the WJ and ZJs after 94 have significant improvements in safety equipment and crash protection.

A good in-between is the ZJ. I had a 4.0 ZJ, very dependable and cheap to operate. Fuel mileage in the 17-20 range average. My WJ only gets that high on long highway trips.
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Unread 08-27-2011, 02:51 PM   #6
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Thanks, it sounds like the wj is more in line with my current needs....family. The added safety features are a big plus. My shortbed chevy has bucket seats so i need more room. I will be using it to pull a small camper with a motorcycle hanging off the back so some power is needed along with mileage. How is the 4.7 on mileage?
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Unread 08-27-2011, 03:13 PM   #7
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CherokeeDrifter
Thanks, it sounds like the wj is more in line with my current needs....family. The added safety features are a big plus. My shortbed chevy has bucket seats so i need more room. I will be using it to pull a small camper with a motorcycle hanging off the back so some power is needed along with mileage. How is the 4.7 on mileage?
I am doing 16mpg city heavy foot driving, up to 22.4mpg highway doing 70mph.
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Unread 08-27-2011, 03:15 PM   #8
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i have a messed up cat and still getting around 17 ish on a good tank
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Unread 08-27-2011, 07:14 PM   #9
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I used to own a 99 Cherokee. It was comfy and fairly reliable. I did have alot of front end issues with it and occasionally on the interstate, the transmission would overheat causing fluid to overflow and smoke like crazy (well...it did it twice truth be told). I always liked the looks of the Cherokee and I really liked it and it had good gas mileage.

I still own a 02 Grand Cherokee Overland - bought it new and it now has 210,000 miles on it. Super duper comfy, has transported me through 42 states and has been reliable having never failed me - although the 4.7 is a PIG on gas. Has had minor issues, such as the fans not working on the passenger side and a rear main seal leak forever - but I can't complain...it's been a great vehicle and I'll probably never part with it.

I also have a 07 Jeep Liberty. It rides like they made a million of them in a week. Constant issues with the front end on this thing and just had the front axles replaced. Horrible riding...super uncomfortable, at least for me. Never again!
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Unread 08-27-2011, 07:16 PM   #10
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BTW - my 4.7 gets about 17 mpg. A little better on flat interstate (which doesn't exist where I live) - but all in all, for a V8 - it is average. Also - for family stuff - you can't beat the Grand's - very comfortable ride - it's like you're sitting on a couch....similar to my Buick Roadmaster Estate Wagon - it just floats!
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Unread 08-27-2011, 07:46 PM   #11
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i was gona buy an xj but ended up w a wj..xj i wud prefer strait to build nd mess around w/. big aftermarket suport. wj is more comfortable nd a softer ride, but also has a wide aftermarket range too..not as much as xj, but still. both great cars but like evrythng comes down to personal preferance! gl w descision!
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Unread 08-28-2011, 04:36 PM   #12
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I own a 96 Cherokee with 4.0 and 5 speed stick and a 99 GC with 4.0 and auto transmission. I can't get an inspection sticker on the 96 due to rust, but the 99 is excellent shape and a daily driver. They are very different vehicles. The Cherokee is a cheap feeling light vehicle that probably would climb a tree with the right tires. I would hate to drive it on a 500 mile road trip, but it's fun in the boondocks. The GC is a way better vehicle, quiet, comfortable and it gets very good gas mileage! My only complaint with WJ , the seats are too soft and lack support, also I could use a bit more legroom. I had the Cherokee given to me, I bought the WJ for $2,000 and it's a really nice vehicle. Best $2,000 ever spent. Go for a WJ, unless your just looking for an off roader.
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Unread 08-29-2011, 12:40 AM   #13
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I owned a 2000 XJ sport prior to my current 2004 WJ. The XJ was a great rig. But, It just got a bit small for my growing family's needs. I was going to build up the XJ for offroad and expedition but I found myself just doing a lot of forest service roads and road trips.

The WJ is more comfortable, has more power, more room and gets about the same mileage. I say The Grand all the way unless you are looking for a wheeler then the XJ wins hands down.
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Unread 08-29-2011, 11:10 AM   #14
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The WJ is a much more comfortable and classy looking daily driver, and to my surprise my stock WJ will out wheel my old stock XJ. My WJ also gets better mileage than my XJ did even though it's much heavier. My wife absolutely loves the WJ and wants to drive it whenever she can, and she hated the XJ (that may or may not be a good thing hah hah).

I'd suggest you opt for the flavor that best suits your needs. An XJ will tolerate neglect better than a WJ IMO, so if you opt for a dub prior maintenance is a big concern. Some reading on here (and some great posts in this very thread) will give you an idea on the things to watch out for on the Grand.
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Unread 08-29-2011, 01:37 PM   #15
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WJ-worth more and cost more to fix.
XJ-worth less and costs less to fix.

Simple.

I had a 5.2ZJ and my next Jeep (after I sell my WJ) will most likely be a 98' 5.9ZJ; for the simple fact that the 4.0 in the WJ is a real loss. The WJ is WAY too heavy for the 4.0 and needs the 4.7 especially when heading off road. Aside from that...with the lift and tires my WJ still rides like **** so I can't base anything on comfort; it's a solid axle vechicle and rides like one but has plenty of room.
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