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View Poll Results: Which lift should I do next?
3.25" by way of adding .75" spacers to current springs 4 36.36%
4" by way of IRO springs 6 54.55%
4.5" by way of adding 2" spacers to current springs 1 9.09%
Nothing, why would you mod a WJ? 0 0%
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Unread 01-03-2011, 08:25 PM   #1
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Can't decide on my next lift. Please Help.

I'm not happy at 2.5", and will be going up. However, I can't decide how big, or by what means. I don't wheel super hard and honestly, the 2.5" has served me fine. Unfortunately it's leaving a lot left to be desired visually.

I am also a single dad so money also has some say in it. Tell me what you guys think, and why.

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Unread 01-03-2011, 08:48 PM   #2
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Depends on your budget. Going up to 4" will require changing a lot more parts. Going to 3" will need a few parts like a trac-bar, and swaybar endlinks.
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Unread 01-03-2011, 08:49 PM   #3
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based on your options.. you only have 2 choices
Don't mod it
or .75" spacers

Going to 4"+.. you're gonna need more than just springs(or 2 inch spacer to your current springs)
If your lookin to keep it on the cheap, anything 4inch plus is NOT the way to go
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Unread 01-03-2011, 09:07 PM   #4
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If you go 4in. then might as well get the IRO 4in. LA lift,it will ride better then a SA 4in. lift but will also cost twice as much to buy,and if you have the dreaded rezeppa front driveshaft you will have to replace it too reguardless of LA or SA lift,it just depends on how much you wanna spend to just make it look good,but they do look cool lifted up.The zone and RCX 4in. lifts are both good and cost bout same 700 to 750 and the IRO LA cost bout 1350.00.
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Unread 01-03-2011, 10:07 PM   #5
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Here's my thinking:

Trac-bar is already going to be purchased regardless of the additional lift. So at 3.25" nothing else will be required. Correct? Est Total: $320

At 4": Front Sway bar is removed from vehicle, so only rear links will be needed. I will need a 1" drop for the transfer case. Est Total: $400

At 4.5": Max for SA right? Same parts needed as 4" right? Est Total: $350
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Unread 01-03-2011, 10:25 PM   #6
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Do not DITCH your front sway bar! Its DANGEROUS and especially if your a father you want to be as safe as possibly. you could get adjustable front sway bar links with QUICK Disconnects if you wanna wheel it. At 4" some people need the transfer case drop some dont. my friend ran 6 1/4 lift with no drop...

4" lift (Coils, Shocks, Sway bar end links, bumpstops. Adjustable front short arms. adjustable trackbar, A-arm spacer) I think thats all?
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Unread 01-03-2011, 10:28 PM   #7
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Do not DITCH your front sway bar! Its DANGEROUS and especially if your a father you want to be as safe as possibly. you could get adjustable front sway bar links with QUICK Disconnects if you wanna wheel it. At 4" some people need the transfer case drop some dont. my friend ran 6 1/4 lift with no drop...

4" lift (Coils, Shocks, Sway bar end links, bumpstops. Adjustable front short arms. adjustable trackbar, A-arm spacer) I think thats all?
It's only dangerous if you drive like an idiot.

At 4" the LCA dont HAVE to be replaced. I should add that whatever one I finally decide on, parts will continued to be added to over time - including adjustable SA.
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Unread 01-03-2011, 10:33 PM   #8
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It's only dangerous if you drive like an idiot.
there are 300 million other drivers on the road, whom we must assume are all idiots. it is not IMHO it is not worth the risk.

ive ridden in a car with no front sway bar. not a comforting ride at all.

plus. sway bar links are CHEAP compared to other mods. so why the heck not

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Unread 01-03-2011, 10:34 PM   #9
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Not only if you drive like an idiot but if some OTHER drive ignores your safety as well as theirs and you need to avoid quickly things could get UGLY, i had my front disco'd after wheeling, and was going through town when i look over to see a drive turning left and heading straight for me! it was hell avoiding the accident. then i realized i never reconnected...

I would spend the extra :
http://www.ironrockoffroad.com/Merch...ry_Code=XSPJKS quick disconnects $159.99

http://roughcountry.com/jeep_xtras_1131.html $59.95
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Unread 01-03-2011, 10:56 PM   #10
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Like I said, things would continue to get modded.

Please back on topic as for as which lift is right for me. Main two options I am considering are the 3.25", and 4".
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Unread 01-03-2011, 10:58 PM   #11
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posted links to help with your lift... quick disconnects for if you wheel your jeep. the cheaper for you and most cost effective would be to go with a 3" lift. still with disconnects
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Unread 01-03-2011, 11:16 PM   #12
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Going higher and ditching the sway bar entirely is a bad idea. Be sure to budget for end links.

At 3.25" you will need the spacers, track bar and end links/discos.

At 4" you will likely need a front driveshaft as well and you should also add longer/adjustable control arms to correct the caster and prevent/reduce death wobble. You'll need a rear a-arm spacer as well. Piecing together a 4" lift on the cheap is going to mean cutting corners and I don't think that is a good idea for your Jeep or your kid(s). Take your time and do it right. The Zone 4"is one of the better values in a 4" lift.
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Unread 01-04-2011, 04:38 AM   #13
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You should try removing the swaybar endlinks and drive the jeep somewhere secluded with no other traffic. Once you see how bad it performs you will see that it is needed. At 4" of lift the problem will be worse. Coil spring suspensions need the swaybar to keep body roll at a minimum, leaf sprung vehicles are more forgiving without the swaybar. At 4" you will need the A-arm spacer also. If you run stock control arms at 4" of lift the tires will be pulled toward the center of the jeep (front tires pulled back to rear of wheel wells, rear tires pulled forward) This will limit tire size you will be able to run. You will be better off to stay at 3" if you don't want to do the other upgrades.
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  3. Sold '00 TJ, 4" lift, rusty's adjustable control arms, skyjacker shocks, rock krawler adj. trac-bar,rugged ridge SYE and RE driveshaft, soft 8's, 35" mud king xt's,XJ HP D30 w/aussie locker, 4:88 yukon gears, hella 500's, rock crusher diff covers
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