Caliper locking up. - JeepForum.com

 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 11 Old 03-15-2016, 06:30 AM Thread Starter
ThaBeefs
Registered User
2001 WJ 
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Gepp
Posts: 334
Caliper locking up.

Okay guys my wj I purchased had a bad shimmy from rotor warp common to teves calipers so I bought new pads and rotors ( facepalm for not buying akebono swap)... Anywho installed at my shop from for test drive and before I got back could smell burning let it cool down and drove home and thing smelling burnt so I figure shot caliper ( all on drivers front forgot to mention) or collapsed hose. Anywho next morning drove back to work with intentions to replace it all again and the whole trip no smell no pull braking. That was 2 weeks ago and not a lick of problem since then until last night and on my way home from work it's dipping to the right breaking and smell so I check when I get home sure enough drivers front again burning...... Wth would cause it to go weeks no problems then out of nowhere mess up again. P. S. I'm driving to work as I write this and so far see nothing wrong with the brakes... No pulling no smell.... Any help? Think it might be that hose but why would it be that intermittent...

Sent from my ONE A2005 using Tapatalk


SOLD 02 WJ 4inch RCX 265-70-17 17x9 DCs
New 01 WJ Stock ... For now
ThaBeefs is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 11 Old 03-15-2016, 07:22 AM
ChrisHager
Smile
 
ChrisHager's Avatar
2004 WJ 
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Springfield
Posts: 8,447
Garage
I would check the hose but you likely have some corrosion on the caliper piston or in the piston bore that's causing the piston to stick. I would replace it.

When you replaced the rotors and pads, did you remove the guide pins and clean/lubricate them? What did you use as lubrication?

~Chris
His: 2004 WJ - OME HD 'Kolak' Lift - Build Thread
His: 1979 J-10 - 3" on 33s - Build Thread
His: 2009 Expedition
His: 1978 F250 Custom - Build Thread
Hers: 2000 TJ
Hers: 2010 Jetta

ChrisHager's 'Grilled' Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt
"You can't recycle tartar sauce."
ChrisHager is online now  
post #3 of 11 Old 03-15-2016, 07:31 AM Thread Starter
ThaBeefs
Registered User
2001 WJ 
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Gepp
Posts: 334
yes i did remove guide pins cleaned them with brake cleaned wiped down and use a lubricant grease we have here at my shop. yea i should have just upgraded to akebono set up ... kicking myself but i just cant get for the life of me why it would fail first test drive then be fine for two weeks no problem fail again out of the blue then this trip to work this morning perfect fine. made it to work not an issue .... i dunno ... think i might just keep driving it keep an eye on it whiel i gather up the parts for new pads and rotors and calipers.... going to go with akebono for sure but think ill get better pads and rotors.... prolly ebc yellow not sure on rotors though.

SOLD 02 WJ 4inch RCX 265-70-17 17x9 DCs
New 01 WJ Stock ... For now
ThaBeefs is offline  
post #4 of 11 Old 03-15-2016, 07:44 AM
CarlJH
Registered User
2003 WJ 
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 494
Have a look at the caliper bracket where the pad ears sit. If theres a wear ridge the new pad can't move back enough off the rotor. Just had this problem with the rears on mine, fixed with new brackets
CarlJH is offline  
post #5 of 11 Old 03-15-2016, 07:47 AM
ChrisHager
Smile
 
ChrisHager's Avatar
2004 WJ 
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Springfield
Posts: 8,447
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by ThaBeefs View Post
going to go with akebono for sure but think ill get better pads and rotors.... prolly ebc yellow not sure on rotors though.
Here's kind of my copy/paste on pads/rotors.

For rotor/pad combinations, these are what I'd recommend:

1. Black Magic brake pads and Centric rotors (sold at BlackMagicBrakes.com by mrblaine here on the forum). Blaine is a brake genius and decided this rotor/pad combination is about as good as it gets. The price is a little towards the higher end but reports say it's totally worth it. As an aside, I've heard he no longer sells the rotors with his pad selection. If you go this route, I recommend talking to him before you buy.

2. Stillen Metal Matrix pads and Stillen rotors (sold by Kolak here on the forum). Stillen rotors are drilled if you're interested in going this route. While I typically prefer solid rotors, people who run this combination rave at how wonderful they are. On top of that, Kolak is a great person to work with and has wonderful deals on all of his products.

3. Hawk LTS pads and Centric rotors. This is what I installed on the WJ. I did a lot of research before buying and decided on this option. I was able to save a few bucks and ended up with a fantastic set of brakes. Once bedded in properly, slamming on the brakes would lift you out of your seat and require a seat belt to hold you in the hover position until you've come to a stop.

4. Jeeples, another moderator here in the WJ section, loves Performance Friction pads. He's recommended them to me though I haven't yet tried them. I imagine these paired with Centric rotors would be a pretty amazing combination.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeeples View Post
Performance Friction are the only pads I use anymore:

http://www.pfcbrakes.com/original-eq...rake-pads.aspx

If you can't source them locally Amazon carries them.
Which of the 4 is the best? It's hard to tell and without personally trying the other options, I can't fully answer that question. What I can offer is this: Rumor has it that option 1 is the end all, be all. Reviews state option 2 is excellent. Option 3 fully impressed me. Option 4 fully impressed Jeeples. Ultimately, if you choose any of the above setups, you won't be disappointed.

~Chris
His: 2004 WJ - OME HD 'Kolak' Lift - Build Thread
His: 1979 J-10 - 3" on 33s - Build Thread
His: 2009 Expedition
His: 1978 F250 Custom - Build Thread
Hers: 2000 TJ
Hers: 2010 Jetta

ChrisHager's 'Grilled' Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt
"You can't recycle tartar sauce."
ChrisHager is online now  
post #6 of 11 Old 03-15-2016, 09:07 AM
DaNgER13
Registered User
1999 WJ 
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Merritt island
Posts: 190
I had a sticky caliper I thought. It ended up being the hose

A baby seal walks into a club...
DaNgER13 is online now  
post #7 of 11 Old 03-15-2016, 09:14 AM Thread Starter
ThaBeefs
Registered User
2001 WJ 
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Gepp
Posts: 334
i think ima just pull it all back apart clean and polish the caliper slide grease it again and see what happens

SOLD 02 WJ 4inch RCX 265-70-17 17x9 DCs
New 01 WJ Stock ... For now
ThaBeefs is offline  
post #8 of 11 Old 03-15-2016, 09:23 AM
ChrisHager
Smile
 
ChrisHager's Avatar
2004 WJ 
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Springfield
Posts: 8,447
Garage
Use a silicone type lubricant on the slide pins. Grease can dry out and stick.

Jeeples introduced me to Napa's Sil-Glyde. Awesome stuff for this and many other applications.

~Chris
His: 2004 WJ - OME HD 'Kolak' Lift - Build Thread
His: 1979 J-10 - 3" on 33s - Build Thread
His: 2009 Expedition
His: 1978 F250 Custom - Build Thread
Hers: 2000 TJ
Hers: 2010 Jetta

ChrisHager's 'Grilled' Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt
"You can't recycle tartar sauce."
ChrisHager is online now  
post #9 of 11 Old 03-15-2016, 10:10 AM Thread Starter
ThaBeefs
Registered User
2001 WJ 
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Gepp
Posts: 334
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisHager View Post
Use a silicone type lubricant on the slide pins. Grease can dry out and stick.

Jeeples introduced me to Napa's Sil-Glyde. Awesome stuff for this and many other applications.
awesome thanks. ill pick some up.

putting the lift and such on this weekend so ill just do it then when i have it in the air.

SOLD 02 WJ 4inch RCX 265-70-17 17x9 DCs
New 01 WJ Stock ... For now
ThaBeefs is offline  
post #10 of 11 Old 03-16-2016, 08:24 AM Thread Starter
ThaBeefs
Registered User
2001 WJ 
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Gepp
Posts: 334
so just decided to hell with it and going to do the TSB for akebono upgrade with kit 5093174AD. working for a dealership myself its only going to cost me $170 which aight shabby so will add that to the list of things to do this weekend.

SOLD 02 WJ 4inch RCX 265-70-17 17x9 DCs
New 01 WJ Stock ... For now
ThaBeefs is offline  
post #11 of 11 Old 03-16-2016, 11:01 AM
Brimstone
Registered User
2000 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Colorado Springs
Posts: 471
I would recommend the upgrade. I would have recommended at least rebuilding or replacing your calipers anyway, not just greasing the pins.

I had a shop tell me once they won't do pads/rotors on a vehicle with over 75k miles without replacing the calipers too, because too many vehicles come back with locked up calipers afterwards.

2004 WJ Overland 4.7HO
2000 TJ Sport 4.0L
Brimstone is online now  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the JeepForum.com forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid e-mail address for yourself.



Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome