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post #1 of 11 Old 03-27-2012, 02:32 PM Thread Starter
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Bilstien 5100 on stock sagging WJ?

Im wondering if I can put these on my worn out WJ to lessen the cost of installing the lift on my WJ.

I dont have the jacks, time or space to lift the jeep this time around. Between the newborn, school and work and the fact that I dont have the jacks to complete the job still Im fixing to get the lift put on. I figure I have already done the stabilizer and rear sway and I would limit it to springs, isos and the trackbar oh and the alignment + mount and balance 5 tires.


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post #2 of 11 Old 03-27-2012, 02:47 PM
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What what?

You want to install lift shocks on a stock-height vehicle? Or you want to install shocks to counteract sagging springs? Are you lifting or not? You can get 5100s for stock height but they aren't suitable for a lift. (and the 4600s/HDs are preferred for stock height anyway). I'm a little confused.


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post #3 of 11 Old 03-27-2012, 03:25 PM
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I have no idea what you are trying to do... That was confusing.

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I think he wants to put the 5100s on a sagging/stock springs.
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But 5100s come in stock length, 2" lift, 3-4" lift and probably longer. We need more info. Stock length 5100s are going to be as unsuitable for a 2" lift as 2" lift 5100s will be on sagging stock springs.


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post #6 of 11 Old 03-28-2012, 06:58 AM Thread Starter
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Ugh....

I want to put the 5100s I got for my lift on before I take it up to get lifted to save on install costs....

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post #7 of 11 Old 03-28-2012, 07:36 AM
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Ugh....

I want to put the 5100s I got for my lift on before I take it up to get lifted to save on install costs....
how is blowing out 4 bilsteins going to save you money?

'97 zj 5.2, some stuff, some other suff, and some things that even work sometimes.

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That's a no. If you put lifted shocks on an already sagging stock spring you are asking for trouble.
And if you can get a couple of jack stands and a jack. Do the springs and shocks yourself.
then you only have to pay for the wheel alignment and tires,and save the $$$for the baby.
Congrats on the new addition to the family.safety first.
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Should have known better then to ask here. All I wanted was a yes or no about if the shocks had enough travel to handle worn out stock springs.

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That's a no. If you put lifted shocks on an already sagging stock spring you are asking for trouble.
And if you can get a couple of jack stands and a jack. Do the springs and shocks yourself.
then you only have to pay for the wheel alignment and tires,and save the $$$for the baby.
Congrats on the new edition to the family.safety first.
Thanks! Honestly I dont have a place to do the lift and would have to buy the jacks to do so since the floor jack I currently own is for cars and 1) doesnt go high enough and 2) isnt of enough capacity to safely lift the jeep.

Now if I didnt have a d44a I would just use my bottle jack and be done with it, but alas I would lift the front and not the back and I dont want to do half the job.

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If you are going to have a shop install the springs for your lift then I don't think it will add a lot of cost to have them go ahead and do the shocks too. The shocks pretty much need to be removed anyways to get the springs out. I would ask the shop first to see what the cost difference would be if any.

Do the 5100s have enough travel to be put on the vehicle prior to the lift? Yeah probably but they will be compressed significantly. I wouldn't drive it for very long like that. Plus, you will have a difficult time installing the shocks without a jack since they are already extended fully.

Hope that is helpful. Good luck.
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All I wanted was a yes or no about if the shocks had enough travel to handle worn out stock springs.
No. They will be too long. Just have them installed with the springs. It will not add any labor to the lift install as the shocks have to be removed to install the springs anyway.


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