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Unread 03-04-2013, 11:03 AM   #1
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Bilstein Hardware

I remember reading somewhere (I think it was NarnWV that listed it) about buying upgraded or different hardware to install the bilsteins. Does anyone have that list? I can't seem to find it now.

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Unread 03-04-2013, 11:15 AM   #2
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If you purchase Bilstein shocks, you will need to provide some additional hardware. The OEM front shocks have studs welded into the bar pins where the mount to the axle. The Bilsteins just have holes. I tried to remove the studs but it was apparent after several heavy hammer blows that they were not pressed in (like I thought) but actually tacked in place.

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The hardware you will need is 4 5/16-18 x 1-1/4" bolts Grade 5, 8 small 5/16" washers (grade 8), and 4 5/16" Grade 8 nylock nuts. All of these were available from Lowe's. I used Grade 5 bolts because the Grade 8 were not available in the right length, and honestly they will not be under that much strain anyway. The Bilstein shocks come with the appropriate bushings and hardware for the body-mount side, so no worries there.
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The latest lift kit from Rough Country? :D
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Your symptoms sounds just like what it does when it's not doing what it should because of how it is.
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Unread 03-04-2013, 11:18 AM   #3
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Unread 03-04-2013, 02:07 PM   #4
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Thanks Chris! Seems like every time I get on here to answer a question, you've already quoted me from somewhere or another and answered it!
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Unread 03-04-2013, 02:16 PM   #5
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my bilstein hd's came with new hardware
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Unread 03-04-2013, 02:31 PM   #6
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Thanks Chris! Seems like every time I get on here to answer a question, you've already quoted me from somewhere or another and answered it!
Haha I remember well where that post was. I forgot to pick up the hardware ahead of time when I did my lift and had to pull it up on the fly!

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my bilstein hd's came with new hardware
Really? Nice.

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Unread 03-04-2013, 03:47 PM   #7
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yeah mine did too
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Unread 03-04-2013, 04:33 PM   #8
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I guess I need to double check mine then. I haven't even opened the boxes yet.
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Unread 03-04-2013, 06:20 PM   #9
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my bilstein hd's came with new hardware
Same here. I ordered through Kolak, if that makes a difference.
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I had to buy the bolts and nuts for my Bilstein 5100s from Kolak.
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Unread 03-04-2013, 06:24 PM   #11
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I had to buy the bolts and nuts for my Bilstein 5100s from Kolak.
I have a feeling the 5100s come without bolts while the HD's come with them.
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Unread 03-05-2013, 10:09 AM   #12
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Same here. I ordered through Kolak, if that makes a difference.
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Come ALIVE old thread....

I am going to be installing mine hopefully soon.
Anyone know what the rear hardware is?
Figure if were going o do 'em, might as well do them all with new hardware...

Bolts? Size? Sandwiched between washers?
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Come ALIVE old thread....

I am going to be installing mine hopefully soon.
Anyone know what the rear hardware is?
Figure if were going o do 'em, might as well do them all with new hardware...

Bolts? Size? Sandwiched between washers?
I would imagine that the stock bolts you take out to remove the old shocks would work just fine.
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Unread 06-20-2013, 02:32 AM   #15
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Come ALIVE old thread....

I am going to be installing mine hopefully soon.
Anyone know what the rear hardware is?
Figure if were going o do 'em, might as well do them all with new hardware...

Bolts? Size? Sandwiched between washers?
I wouldn't bother, the stock bolts are just fine. I just installed Bilstein 5100's today (used Bilzcat's write-up to purchase the front lower shock hardware and as a general guide for the lift. However, the stock bolts on mine were big, heavy duty bolts that worked fine. I wouldn't both replacing them unless they're rusted as hell or something.

However, the one problem I did have (and still kind of have since I'm still finishing the last bits of the lift tomorrow), is that the upper front shock mounts just spin when you take the old shocks off and when you put the new Bilsteins in. The stock shock had a 6mm hex at the top of that post, but you have to hold that with a socket and then use a box-end wrench to actually loosen the shock bolt to get it off. PITA, because there's very little room to work the wrench in there.

Now I'm having the same issue with installing the Bilstein's. Even with the vehicle back on the ground, the shaft just spins (obviously it would, because it's a round chrome shaft with nothing to stop it accept the post at the top, which is an allen type, instead of a hex like the stock one). I can put an allen wrench into the top of the post to hold it still, but I still have to tighten the main bolt and again, have to use a regular wrench, which is HARD and takes forever. Plus, even after it's tight, I can't finish tightening it with a socket as it continues to spin. I can't even tell if I've got the torque spec right...

Such a PITA. Why does no one have this problem? I people never seem to mention trouble with the shaft spinning when trying to remove the shock, nor when installing new ones.
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