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post #61 of 97 Old 01-27-2014, 08:23 AM
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why did you choose to mount the tie rod to the drag link instead of the drag link to the tie rod like the picture below? wont this change the toe angle with suspension movement?

^ I agree with this. Also, had you gone this route, the drag link and track bar would be dang close to the same length.

Also, the plate used to fix your frame is welded in correctly. You dont want to fully weld plate to a unibody. It should be done in sections, and spaced. There is a pretty good chance that the plate is going to break again.

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post #62 of 97 Old 01-27-2014, 09:24 AM Thread Starter
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why did you choose to mount the tie rod to the drag link instead of the drag link to the tie rod like the picture below? wont this change the toe angle with suspension movement?

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^ I agree with this. Also, had you gone this route, the drag link and track bar would be dang close to the same length.
The picture you attached is inverted T. I did not want inverted T due to tie rod roll and dead spot. My set-up is inverted Y. Inverted Y is actually a very good steering design, as is crossover, obviously. In my opininion, if properly set-up, there's not much to not like about inverted Y, which avoids direct connection of the knuckles. Is there toe change with suspension cycle, yes. Does it matter practically speaking, no. If toe is properly set at ride height, then a nominal toe change during suspension cycling really doesn't make any difference. If I was planning to change springs every other week, or use 11" of travel on the nearest exit ramp on my daily commute, then perhaps I would have made a poor choice, but that's not reality.

TJSWJ -- as it now stands, my draglink and trackbar are within 3/8" of each other length-wise, perfectly in plane and parallel. That really is about as close to perfect as you can get.

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Also, the plate used to fix your frame is welded in correctly. You dont want to fully weld plate to a unibody. It should be done in sections, and spaced. There is a pretty good chance that the plate is going to break again.

http://mallcrawlin.com/forum/showthr...-Welding-Bible
I respectfully disagree. I don't want to go down the wrong path in my thread, so I'll just leave it at that.

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I respectfully disagree. I don't want to have this go down the wrong path in my thread, so I'll just leave it at that.
fair enough


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post #65 of 97 Old 01-28-2014, 07:07 PM Thread Starter
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Changed spindle bearing. Tough little sucker. Needed some persuasion.

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It fought back.

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(actually, that was carnage while MIG welding the bumpstop towers. )

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Front truss cosmetics

Prior to paint, front truss needed to be dressed up a bit. Pilot holes drilled, stepped up to a larger bit, then hole saw. Air saw used to join the holes and make the slots. The slots are purely cosmetic, but will make it a bit easier to paint the inside of the truss, and maybe reduce wind resistance.

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Front ARB

Installed new bearings on the ARB. Ring gear bolted on in a criss-cross pattern. Unless you have a great memory, a little trick is to mark the bolts as you torque them to spec. Red lock tight used.

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14-bolt anyone? To say its massive is an understatement. The drums weigh over 50 lbs each. But who needs a 14-bolt when the D44a is a champ with 35's locked?

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i considered a 14B because of its low over all cost and high strength but i was afraid the jeep wouldn't have the power to pull that beast around lol

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i considered a 14B because of its low over all cost and high strength but i was afraid the jeep wouldn't have the power to pull that beast around lol
Gears would help with that.

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14-bolt anyone? To say its massive is an understatement. The drums weigh over 50 lbs each. But who needs a 14-bolt when the D44a is a champ with 35's locked?
i hear if you wrap it in gorilla tape it's as strong as a d60
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She lives!

Quick teaser pic of my WJ rolling. Even with the full-width axles, properly spec'd rims and tall & skinny tires enabled me to tuck the outer edge of the tire in a tad more than stock axles with 315's. PA cops be damned!

I'll have plenty of more substantive info for the swap "guide" in the coming weeks. Non-jeep life has be busy these days. Stay tuned.

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I want to see it rolling on some rocks!

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You gonna have this beast at the all breeds jeep show in a few weeks?

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Mr skain, nice to see your rig together. Bet you won't be breaking axles anytime soon
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