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post #16 of 97 Old 04-25-2013, 07:47 AM Thread Starter
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How long until the brackets are available? Any idea on pricing?
I'll have an answer for you shortly.


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Is that truss getting welded on with the alignment bar installed?
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Is that truss getting welded on with the alignment bar installed?
Truss was welded in place with alignment bar (but not the alignment pucs). With the heat, the tubes move much easier than you think. The bar allows you to easily check tolerances and apply a stitch here/there to tweak as needed.

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Truss was welded in place with alignment bar. With the heat, the tubes move much easier than you think. The bar allows you to easily check tolerances and apply a stitch here/there to tweak as needed.
Hmm, I thought that was the reason you dont want to weld on an axle with an alignment bar installed. If the housing tweaks during welding the alignment bar could become locked into the housing.

Forgive me if im wrong, but I thought alignment bars were for checking straightness of an axle, not maintaining it during the welding process.
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Hmm, I thought that was the reason you dont want to weld on an axle with an alignment bar installed. If the housing tweaks during welding the alignment bar could become locked into the housing.

Forgive me if im wrong, but I thought alignment bars were for checking straightness of an axle, not maintaining it during the welding process.
No, the bar was not in there to maintain straightness during welding, just to check it for straightness after various passes. There was no risk of it being locked into the housing since the alignment pucs were not in the housing -- the bar itself does not move that much unless you don't know what you're doing.

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Caster is a somewhat subjective feel for the driver. The Clayton upper arms offer adjustment that allow you to strike a balance between caster & driveline angle. If you are unable to find a happy medium, offset balljoints maybe provide that little extra adjustment needed. Otherwise, a cut/turn of the knuckles may provide the ultimate solution.
Great write up so far. I wish the WJ had a high pinon dana 30 like the XJ's did. Is it a total pain to cut/turn the knuckles? I guess the high pinon 44 will help with drive line angles significantly and turning the knuckles wont be needed for most people.

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Great write up so far. I wish the WJ had a high pinon dana 30 like the XJ's did. Is it a total pain to cut/turn the knuckles? I guess the high pinon 44 will help with drive line angles significantly and turning the knuckles wont be needed for most people.
Yes, the HP30 would have been a very nice strength upgrade and a lot more forgiving with lifts. I believe clearance issues with the stock WJ was the reason for the LP30. If the WJ came with a HP30 from the factory, the front HP44 would not have been paired with the 9" for this swap. Unfortunately, the LP30 is what Chrysler stuck us with.

The HP44 is not cut and turned, and caster will be set around +5.5* ish.

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Updated this thread with some new pics of the front axle & truss.

As a bonus, here's a classified pic of the front truss schematics :

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Updated this thread with some new pics of the front axle & truss.

As a bonus, here's a classified pic of the front truss schematics :
Wow you have real skills there......it looks just like a factory blue print I once saw!

If you can't fix it with a hammer, you've got yourself an electrical problem!
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look a lot like the tnt truss
Yes, it does. The D44 truss design is somewhat generic in nature. The differences lie in how each manufacturer/fabber adds their finishing touches.

TNT makes some good stuff. Though expensive once you add everything you need.

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any price on the full bracket kit? ive got a 9inch that is calling my name now lol

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any price on the full bracket kit? ive got a 9inch that is calling my name now lol
Ha! Contact me and we'll chat if you have any questions. The 9" is a great donor axle and the EMF bracketry/truss makes it even better (and practically bombproof). :-)

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Picked up a used (new) Riddler for the 44 off CL. What a steal. Also found Randall while digging through some old boxes in the basement. Good day all around.

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Nice find, he's better than McNabb or Vick! Nice diff cover too.

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