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post #1 of 12 Old 01-11-2017, 09:23 AM Thread Starter
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Wj 99-01 WJ - TEVES to Akebono brake upgrade

There are numerous older posts out there and one of our Moderators (Chris) posted some options in a thread I cant seem to find now. If anyone finds it post it up here and Ill edit to include it.

Here is what I did and my results were fantastic !! I went from the typical 99-01 mushy brakes to "your *** better be strapped in" brakes.

My WJ is a 01 and my build details are here Daves WJ

I went from the standard "Teves" style caliper to the Akebono style that came out on the 02-04 versions. The difference is a better design piston and mounting assembly. If your unsure which you have, the Teves style has the antivibration spring that goes from one side of the caliper to the other. Ill upload a picture of one in the next post.

For my upgrade, I went all out because I felt my brakes were terrible and wanted something I knew was going to work. Here are the parts .... I got mine from Junkyards and Amazon but @Kolak can help you out as well.

Akebono front calipers and mounting brackets from an 04 WJ (LQK Pick a part - Houston) - $ 100
Centric Parts 120.67042 Premium Brake Rotor with E-Coating from Amazon - $ 43 ea
Centric Parts 120.67043 Premium Brake Rotor with E-Coating from Amazon - $35 ea
Hawk Performance HB446Y.725 LTS Brake Pad from Amazon - $ 65
Hawk Performance HB381Y.661 LTS Brake Pad from Amazon - $ 57
ACDelco 18K1568X Professional Front Disc Brake Caliper Hardware Kit with Clips and Seals from Amazon - $ 14

Installation is a snap, make sure you wash the rotors very good to get all the rust inhibitors off and I bled the heck out of the brakes to flush out the old fluid and make sure there wasnt anything in the junkyard calipers. Its essential that you get the mounting brackets with the Akebono calipers, its not a direct caliper swap. Its just 2 more bolts to pull the brackets so its no major evolution to get them off.

For the first time ever, I followed the Hawk recommended bedding / brake in suggestions and the ferro carbon pads smell different than regular pads when they get hot so keep that in mind. I thought for sure something wasnt right but thats how they are.

As far as performance .... unbelievable, love em


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post #2 of 12 Old 01-11-2017, 10:04 AM
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I did something similar with ours soon after we bought it, but I went with the Powerstop rebuilt calipers with brackets and hardware: http://www.rockauto.com/en/partsearch/?partnum=S4826 Cost was slightly higher when you factor in shipping and core return, but they look sharp and work great. My 16-year-old son really likes the look of the red powdercoat. For pads I went with the Powerstop Evolution Plus Ceramic. Stopping power is great and I really like the low brake dust of the ceramic pads.
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When I bought my 02, the guy I bought it from knew I was going to lift it and run bigger tires so he did the swap to the 04 setup before I picked it up. Never drove a WJ with the orignial brakes, but with the upgraded brakes, mine stops on a dime with my 33's.
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For the first time ever, I followed the Hawk recommended bedding / brake in suggestions and the ferro carbon pads smell different than regular pads when they get hot so keep that in mind. I thought for sure something wasnt right but thats how they are.

As far as performance .... unbelievable, love em
I agree, I have the Centric rotors and Hawk LTS pads, they're great.

Every morning I smell a light burning brakes smell, is that what smell is, the Ferro Carbon?
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Thanks for mentioning me I do carry Centric products as well and for high performance rotors and pads I have the ones from Stillen (Steve Millen Motorsports).

If anyone would like to replace/upgrade brake components PM me here or email me at kolak@aol.com

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...I do carry Centric products as well...
Interesting. I didn't realize this. I'm a big Centric rotor fan and just set up an Explorer with Centric rotors for all 4 corners.

Next time I'm in the market, I'll give you a shout!

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Dave, I'm glad you like the setup. Hawk/Centric really do a good job at smashing your face against the windshield.

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There are numerous older posts out there and one of our Moderators (Chris) posted some options in a thread I cant seem to find now. If anyone finds it post it up here and Ill edit to include it.
Is this what you're talking about?

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For rotor/pad combinations, these are what I'd recommend:

1. Black Magic brake pads and Centric rotors (sold at BlackMagicBrakes.com by @mrblaine here on the forum). Blaine is a brake genius and decided this rotor/pad combination is about as good as it gets. The price is a little towards the higher end but reports say it's totally worth it. As an aside, I've heard he no longer sells the rotors with his pad selection. If you go this route, I recommend talking to him before you buy.

2. Stillen Metal Matrix pads and Stillen rotors (sold by @Kolak here on the forum). Stillen rotors are drilled if you're interested in going this route. While I typically prefer solid rotors, people who run this combination rave at how wonderful they are. On top of that, Kolak is a great person to work with and has wonderful deals on all of his products.

3. Hawk LTS pads and Centric rotors. This is what I installed on the WJ. I did a lot of research before buying and decided on this option. I was able to save a few bucks and ended up with a fantastic set of brakes. Once bedded in properly, slamming on the brakes would lift you out of your seat and require a seat belt to hold you in the hover position until you've come to a stop.

4. @Jeeples , another moderator here in the WJ section, loves Performance Friction pads. He's recommended them to me though I haven't yet tried them. I imagine these paired with Centric rotors would be a pretty amazing combination.

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Performance Friction are the only pads I use anymore:

http://www.pfcbrakes.com/original-eq...rake-pads.aspx

If you can't source them locally Amazon carries them.
Which of the 4 is the best? It's hard to tell and without personally trying the other options, I can't fully answer that question. What I can offer is this: Rumor has it that option 1 is the end all, be all. Reviews state option 2 is excellent. Option 3 fully impressed me. Option 4 fully impressed Jeeples. Ultimately, if you choose any of the above setups, you won't be disappointed.

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@ChrisHager .. yep, thats the one !

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Due to pricing, discounts available, and the fact that they had a pair in stock, I purchased a pair of Akebono calipers from AA yesterday. At checkout online, I used TRT30 and got a huge discount on the calipers and pads. I also had to pick up rotors and pads for my wife's Explorer, so I added them to the sale. I got all that stuff for $174.00! Both of my old Teves calipers were locking up after 230K, so the time was now. The hardest part about the whole install was figuring out those abutment clips. That took a minute or two(yeah right). After I got them in place, I installed the new Gold pads and had the calipers done in minutes. I'm happy with the new calipers, but I swear my old Teves calipers felt almost the same if not a little stiffer than these ones. I definitely don't have that "put you through the windshield feel". I'll be able to determine a lot about their performance once I get to do some trail riding.

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The feel was the same for me when I swapped in the Akibono calipers. You got a really good deal!!

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For mine I actually managed to find the Mopar upgrade kit on ebay. It comes with 2 fully loaded (with pads and mounting brackets) brand spanking new (not remaned) Akinbono calipers, just had to add a pair of rotors and I was good to go. I was so glad to get rid of my sticking Tevis calipers.
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Sounds like you guys need to consider a set of Hawk pads !

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