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post #1 of 14 Old 11-11-2013, 05:07 PM Thread Starter
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3" lift, body roll and sway

ok, so i did a quick search and did not quite find the answers i was looking for

I have a '01 WJ, 3" IRO with Doetsch shocks, adjustable track bar, JKS disconnects, moog steering stabilizer, and addco rear sway bar

I'm ok with body roll around corners, doesn't really bother me much, but it sways alot in a straight line, i tend to wander back and forth in the lane with the slightest touch of the wheel, I had pretty much gotten used to it but drove my other car for about a week while it was in the shop and after getting back in the jeep, i've been noticing it alot more

I was kind of disappointed by the rear sway bar with a lack of results, would the front sway bar make much more difference? i thought the factory bar was pretty hefty already, I suppose shortening the JKS links would help tighten it up but they are hard enough to put back on sometimes as it is

Also had considered ordering a set of bilsteins for a softer ride than the doetsch shocks but i am concerned that a softer shock will create more body roll


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post #2 of 14 Old 11-11-2013, 06:14 PM
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I would get the front up in the air and check tie rods,ball joints, and such. There is probably something worn out up front causing your wandering.

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post #3 of 14 Old 11-11-2013, 08:23 PM Thread Starter
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i replaced the passenger side upper ball joint about a month ago and need to do the driver side soon, the tire leans in a little but i can't feel any play in it, i'll try to check it out tomorrow if i get a chance

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post #4 of 14 Old 11-11-2013, 08:29 PM
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I ran the 3" IRO and Addco swaybar for a couple months with stock rear links, and the bumpsteer was very bad. It was a noticeable improvement when I installed the extended links.
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post #5 of 14 Old 11-11-2013, 08:32 PM Thread Starter
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i have the extended links on, I would have thought the shorter links would allow less travel and keep the sway bar tighter

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post #6 of 14 Old 11-11-2013, 11:40 PM
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Have you had the alignment checked? I'd like to know how much positive caster you have.

What's your hub/fender measurement up front? I'd also like to know if you got more than 3" of lift.

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post #7 of 14 Old 11-12-2013, 06:52 AM Thread Starter
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I had it aligned in the spring right after the lift was put on, when I did the balljoint I had to drop the knuckle but left the tie rods attached

I took some measurements before the lift but never measured it after, and now I have the cut out flares installed so hub to fender won't be quite as accurate anymore

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post #8 of 14 Old 11-12-2013, 07:25 AM Thread Starter
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ok, so a quick estimation, after being installed for about 7 months, i've got right around 3" over the stock height in the front, and about 2.25" over stock in the rear, i also have a spare tire carrier and full size spare on the rear, so i assume the helps account for the lower height there

edit: i just walked outside and layed in the snow for a minute, the tie rod ends i assume are bad, i can roll it back and forth but doesnt seem to be any side to side play from the wheel, its kind of hard to tell with the ball joints though, but when moving the wheel, there doesn't feel to be any extra play

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post #9 of 14 Old 11-12-2013, 09:24 AM
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Check the rear a-arm bushings, that's the cause of mine...

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post #10 of 14 Old 11-12-2013, 10:41 AM
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talk with Kolak about Moog HD tie-rod ends or look them up yourself. Also check your front axle track. Have you taken several cross measurements to ensure your front axle is centered? This can cause wondering as well and throw off your alignment.

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post #11 of 14 Old 11-12-2013, 02:58 PM
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If you can roll the tie rod and draglink without hardly any effort and feel the tie rod ends go "clunk" it's time to replace them. That's going to be a cause of wandering as well as potentially death wobble. PM me if you'd like a price on a set of the MOOG HD tie rod ends.

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ok, so a quick estimation, after being installed for about 7 months, i've got right around 3" over the stock height in the front, and about 2.25" over stock in the rear, i also have a spare tire carrier and full size spare on the rear, so i assume the helps account for the lower height there

edit: i just walked outside and layed in the snow for a minute, the tie rod ends i assume are bad, i can roll it back and forth but doesnt seem to be any side to side play from the wheel, its kind of hard to tell with the ball joints though, but when moving the wheel, there doesn't feel to be any extra play

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post #12 of 14 Old 11-19-2013, 06:05 PM Thread Starter
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i was able to crawl under it this weekend and check everything out real good and i think everything feels pretty good, think i may have been a little nervous was all, also i took the JKS disconnects off saturday night to go wheeling and have yet to put them back on, so far i don't really notice much difference in it, monday morning i actually forgot that i hadn't put them back on, might just run without them a little longer and rethink what i'm gonna do

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post #13 of 14 Old 11-21-2013, 04:45 PM
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any update? Running my 3" Kolak lift with all new steering components and I have a little bit of wandering like you mentioned. I have triple checked my components and having my alignment checked again tomorrow. I hope its not any CA bushings.

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post #14 of 14 Old 11-24-2013, 07:14 PM Thread Starter
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not much of an update, just used to driving it again, went a whole week without the front sway bar connected and really didn't notice it wasn't there, planning on going wheeling friday, i will put them back on after that

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