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DJHile 12-08-2009 11:05 AM

01 Jeep GC Limited WJ Starting Problem
 
My Grand Cherokee Lmtd 2001 has been having some problems starting. I know that I have a good charge on the battery. My interior lights work and the "door open" sound works. At first I could start the Jeep by holding the key over to "start" and keeping it held there for 1sec-30sec or so. It would "click" when you turn it over but you'd either have to hold it over or keep turning the key over until it started. The gauges, radio, ac, etc all lit up when the key was turned over to "acc" before trying to start. I was in the process of trying to track down this problem (only got a chance to check the starter which IS good)... I went out to try to trace it down again today and NOW I have no power on my radio/ac panel and no gauges or warning lights on my instrumental panel. Now it has not and will not start and I do not know what to do. I first want to get some opinions on the issue before taking it to the dealer who wants 2-3 hours of labor just to try to trace the problem.

Any ideas? I've searched through the forums and found SIMILAR problems but none that seem to truly fit my problem here. I'd REALLY appreciate any help... this is keeping me from getting any work done since I work as a mobile leather/vinyl repairman out of my Jeep... she's my BABY!!! HELP!!

99WJCHRIS 12-08-2009 01:03 PM

I just had a problem like this last week. fit yours almost exactly. my problem i believe since it has worked fine since i fixed it was that the wires on the positive side of the battery were corroded. They heated up and melted and bubbled the wire insulation. I had to cut the bad insulation off clean what i could clean and spare what wire i didnt have to cut off and put on a new battery terminal lead. So far so good. So i would cut away all the tape on the plastic wire covers on both your positive and negitive battery terminals. then look at your wires. If anything looks corroded or bubbled cut it off or clean it the best you can.You will probably have to get new battery terminal leads that you can screw your wires to your starter and jeep in. Its not starting because its not getting enough power through the wires to start it because of the corrosion and your wires may have broken off. Try that. Its what my problem was. hopefully this helps you.

Wheelin98TJ 12-08-2009 01:10 PM

I agree - clean the battery terminals first.

Even if they look clean, go ahead and rough them up a little with sandpaper, a file, or a wire brush.

Can you hear the starter solenoid click when you turn the key?

DJHile 12-08-2009 01:34 PM

Battery terminals are all clean, no corrosion, etc... I made sure of that already. I DID go through and just start testing EVERYTHING and found out that a fuse had blown. It was the fuse under the hood beside the battery for the ignition. I think I probably caused this by holding the key over to "start" for too long and the constant voltage probably blew the fuse. It WILL start now but I am still having issues with the "clicking" from the starter solenoid. When you turn it over to start it, it "clicks" and then you can A) Keep it held over until it starts (how I blew my fuse) or just keep trying to repeatedly start it and click it until it finally fires up.... Starter and solenoid are both good according to my mechanic... So odd.

99WJCHRIS 12-10-2009 05:17 PM

that sounds like exactly what happened to me. i dont know whats up though. I have not started my jeep in a couple days but i think my issue is fixed. If you find out whats wrong with it though post it up cuz im curious.

Wheelin98TJ 12-11-2009 07:20 AM

Your problem is the starter or the battery.

Probably the starter based on your description of the problem.

I'd remove the starter and take it to a parts store for testing. I know Autozone does it for free.

bg00gt 12-11-2009 07:24 AM

yall sure its not a bad ignition switch?

steelstr45 12-11-2009 07:30 AM

That's definitely a bad starter. You've got a dead spot (or spots). Everything works up to the starter if you're hearing the click of the solenoid. It just isn't turning over the starter. I'd say 90% that's what it is.

DJHile 12-12-2009 09:50 PM

Okay fellas, here's the problem I am having... this damn 40 amp fuse keeps blowing!! I seriously don't think it's the starter. I replaced the fuse and got it to start, now if I try turning the key over to start a few times, it blows the 40 amp fuse to the starter/ignition that is located in the fuse panel beside the battery. Any ideas?

WiCkeDuDe 12-12-2009 10:18 PM

Still say its a bad starter. Its drawing too much current to start. Something internal is going out or shorting.

jtthirdeye 12-13-2009 08:48 AM

I second the starter. Starter is drawing too much current trying to turn, blowing your 40amp fuse. My boat did the same thing to me last summer. Put a new one in, problem went away.

RaptorPDX 11-05-2010 12:30 PM

Thanks for this. I have been running into a similar issue. Engine would turn but would not start. I checked the fuses but I don't know how to tell if they are blown or not.

I checked the battery and noticed a lot of crud all over the electrodes and connectors. Took a metal brush and sandpaper to them and really cleaned them, took off all the red grease all over everything. I did notice that it started fine twice after I re-connected everything but that doesn't mean much since before the starting was hit or miss. I did notice that my check engine light didn't come back on (but maybe that is because I disconnected the battery?). I will give my 03 WJ a couple days to see if the problem persists.

Can someone let me know how I find out if fuses are blown?

skipshowers 11-06-2013 08:09 PM

I am having problems with my ignition, I replaced the actuator pin, tumbler assembly and ignition switch and I still have to original problem.
When I start the truck the starter starts in the on position, it doesn't wait till the start position... any ideas

skipshowers 11-06-2013 08:22 PM

01 zj ignition problems
 
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Originally Posted by skipshowers (Post 17500553)
I am having problems with my ignition, I replaced the actuator pin, tumbler assembly and ignition switch and I still have to original problem.
When I start the truck the starter starts in the on position, it doesn't wait till the start position... any ideas

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skipshowers 11-09-2013 09:02 AM

I replaced the ignition switch, the electrical part at the far left of the bunch. The pin assembly, in the middle part. And the actual key tumbler assembly. And the starter is new also. All is new. I am stumped. I am going to get new relays today and see if that does anything. Thank u for all the thoughts, very helpful.


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