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Unread 02-25-2011, 07:12 PM   #1
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WK2 FAQ and Basic Info Compilation

Ok, so I promised this a little while ago. It took several hours to compile the information, but here it is.

Welcome to Jeepforum.com's WK2 Technical Section! This is the place for 2011 to current model Jeep Grand Cherokees.

This introduction is designed to help you get familiar with the ins and outs of your Jeep, show you the ropes for this forum, and hopefully answer some basic questions.

This place is THE place to find out about your WK2. Whether troubleshooting, upgrading, or learning about how your Jeep works, you'll get plenty of insight here. The following is a sort of "How to..." for the forum. It is broken down into sections and includes links to threads that cover some of the more common information.

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If you do "Beat a Dead Horse" by starting a new thread, take cover. Which brings us to the next point...

Don't Banter- You may get an answer you didn't want to hear, or a comment that you felt was offensive. As Chris Rock would say: "Let it slide"
There are forum guru's and all around helpful guys, just take criticism with a grain of salt. No need to be quick to defend yourself or attempt to insult the poster. Honestly, they don't really care.
This thread is the perfect example of what NOT to do: Best/cost efficient way to gain HP and gas mileage
Additional Information: Rules and Guidelines

RE BB SYE ACC BL CV Whaaaa?
-Here is a list of common Acronyms and Abreviations used in the Technical section. This guide doesn't apply that much yet to this forum, but as time goes on, unique acronyms that apply to WK2s will come out of the woodwork.

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General Offroading: This thread list, compiled by Unlimited04, covers tips and techniques for all kinds of terrain. Offroad Tips and Techniques

Useful/Informative Threads

I will start to compile useful threads containing write-ups or various bits of information on how various components work in this section.

Technical Information:

MDS Information/History: http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f309/...works-1176294/

WK2 4x4 How it Works: http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f309/...stems-1177616/

Not So Technical, but Still Useful:

Easter Eggs... Cool features not everyone knows: http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f309/...-eggs-1230910/

Maintenance

I am only covering information for the 3.6L Pentastar and 5.7L Hemi because the 3.0L V6 diesel is not available in North America.


Oil Changes

The WK2 has an oil change indicator system. This system displays a “Oil Change Required” or “Oil Change” message at appropriate intervals on the instrument cluster. The Oil Change Indicator system uses the Powertrain Control Module to process a variety of inputs and then decides on an oil change interval. The factors which point toward severe use include the following:

* Ambient temperature inputs which indicate extended periods of low temperature operation
* Average vehicle speeds which indicate stop-and-go driving
* Run time which indicates prolonged idling
* Trip lengths and coolant temperatures which indicate short trips
* Engine RPM and engine loads which indicate trailer tow usage
* Fuel indications of an ethanol percentage of 60 percent or greater

The oil change indicator can be reset using the following steps:

1. Turn the ignition key to ON but do not start the engine. If you have the push button start, press the button twice with the key in the vehicle and your foot OFF the brake.
2. Slowly depress the accelerator to the floor and release it three times within 10 seconds.
3. Turn the ignition key to the OFF position (or press the push button to turn OFF).

Repeat the process if the indicator does not reset.

Please note, the oil must be changed either when the indicator message appears or when the maintenance interval occurs (whichever occurs first).

3.6L V6 Pentastar:

Capacity: 6 Quarts (with Filter)
Type: 5W-30 API Certified
Oil Pan Torque Spec: 25 ft. lbs./34 N·m
Change Interval: Highway Use - 8,000 miles 6 mo. Severe Use - 4,000 miles 3 mo.


5.7L V8 Hemi

Capacity: 7 Quarts (with Filter)
Type: 5W-20 API Certified (Note: It is important to use only 5W-20 oil for proper operation of the Multiple Displacement System. Use of other weight oils will affect the on/off timing window of the MDS system and may also result in unbalanced engine wear).
Oil Pan Torque Spec: 20 ft. lbs./27 N·m
Change Interval: Highway Use - 8,000 miles 6 mo. Severe Use - 4,000 miles 3 mo.


Transfer Cases 4WD and AWD only

Service for the transfer cases is an inspection. The fluid is considered lifetime and should only be replaced when necessary. The listed interval is when the fluid should be inspected.

MP3010 Quadra-Trac I

Capacity: .51 Liters (1 Pint)
Type: ATF approved to MB 236.10, MB 236.12, such as Shell ATF 3403*
Drain Fill Plug: Unknown Torque Spec
Interval: 30,000 miles 36 mo.
*From what I can find, this is a proprietary fluid by Mercedes Benz made by Shell. It is a fully Synthetic fluid.


MP3023 Select-Trac 2

Capacity: 1.90L (4 Pints)*
Type: ATF +4
Drain Fill Plug: 15-25 ft.-Lbs
Interval: 30,000 miles 36 mo.
*Fill to bottom edge of the fill plug hole.


Transmissions

Note: Do not use additives in your transmission fluid. Claims made by these manufacturers have not been supported to the satisfaction of Chrysler and could jeopardize the integrity of seals.

W5A580 (3.6L Pentastar)

Capacity: Service - 4-6 Quarts. Overhaul - 9.5-10 Quarts.
Type: ATF +4
Interval: Highway - 100,000 miles Severe - 60,000 miles


545RFE (5.7L Hemi)

Capacity: Service - 2WD 5.5 Quarts 4WD 6.5 Quarts. Overhaul - 14 Quarts
Type: ATF +4
Interval: Highway - 100,000 miles Severe - 60,000 miles


Air Filter

Note: High flow filters do allow more air for the engine, but they also provide less protection This higher flow comes at the cost of protection because they allow larger dust particles in the engine.

3.6L Pentastar

Filter: MoparŪ p/n 4861756AA
Interval: Highway - 32,000 miles 24 mo. Severe/Dusty - 16,000 miles 12 mo.


5.7L Hemi

Filter: MoparŪ p/n 5018777AB
Interval: Highway - 32,000 miles 24 mo. Severe/Dusty - 16,000 miles 12 mo.


Spark Plugs

Note: The 3.6L Pentastar is Chrysler's first engine to use 12mm Spark Plugs. Over-torquing them can cause improper heat transfer which can induce pre-ignition. This pre-ignition can cause engine damage. The 5.7L Hemi uses a torque critical tapered design. Do not over-tighten these either.

3.6L Pentastar

Plug Count: 6
Gap: .040
Torque: 13 ft. lbs.
Type: MoparŪ p/n SP149125AD (Champion R8ZWYCB4)
Interval: 96,000 Miles


5.7L Hemi

Plug Count: 16
Gap: .040
Torque: 13 ft. lbs.
Type: MoparŪ p/n SLZFR5C11 (NGK ZFR5C11)
Interval: 30,000 Miles

Throttle Body Cleaning

The throttle body CANNOT be cleaned. Don not use spray cleaners or apply silicone lubricants to any part of the throttle body. These types of products can damage the throttle body components. The throttle body has no serviceable components and is replaced as an assembly. It should last the life of the vehicle.

Engines


3.6L V6 Pentastar



The 3.6L V6 Pentastar engine is designed to run efficiently on 87 octane gasoline. The use of premium fuel is not recommended for use in the 3.6L Pentastar engine, and in some instances can result in decreased performance and economy. I can not confirm the use of E85 in every Pentastar, however, it looks like it is safe for all 3.6L engines. The 3.6-liter V6 engine delivers 290 horsepower (216 kW) at 6,350 rpm and 260 lb.-ft. (353 N•m) of torque at 4,300 rpm, an increase of 38 percent in horsepower and 11 percent in torque over its predecessor, while providing customers up to an 11 percent improvement in fuel economy. The Pentastar V-6 is designed to run on regular gasoline, offering a 10 percent reduction in fuel cost compared with premium fueled engines. The engine’s torque exceeds 90 percent of its peak value from 1,600 to 6,400 rpm, which provides customers with outstanding drive-ability and responsiveness. Power Graph:




5.7L Hemi



The 5.7L Hemi is tuned to run most efficiently on 89 octane fuel. While this fuel is recommended, use of 87 octane fuel will not cause damage and can be safely used in the 5.7L Hemi. As with the 3.6L Pentastar, use of premium fuel is not recommended and can result in poorer performance in some instances. Unlike the 3.6L, use of E85 is not acceptable in any case. This fuel can cause damage to the engine and other various components. The all-new 2nd generation 5.7-liter HEMI V-8 Eagle engine offers better fuel economy, improved idle quality and overall refinement, along with more horsepower and torque. HEMI has always been synonymous with power, and now - thanks to VVT, expanded four-cylinder mode in the MDS system, and a host of other technologies - Chrysler's new HEMI delivers more fuel efficiency and refinement, along with even more power. Other enhancements include an increased compression ratio and an active intake manifold with long runners for low-end torque and short runners for high-rpm power. For the 2011 model year, the 5.7L produces increased power and torque over the previous model, delivering 360 horsepower (268 kW) and 390 lb.-ft. of torque (520 N•m) @ 4,250 rpm and features Variable-valve Timing (VVT) and fuel-saving MDS technology with dual exhaust to maximize efficiency.


I will update this as more information becomes available and when I have time. If there are requests for specific things, I will also work on that. I will also write a section that outlines the operation of the 3 different 4wd systems, MoparŪ accessories, aftermarket upgrades (such as exhausts, tuners, lifts), tire sizes, rims, and anything else I/others can think of. If you have something that you would like included, shoot me a PM. If you have information on that item, it would make my part much easier. I would also love a FSM when it becomes available to help expand this section. I will include links to write-ups when they become available.

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Unread 02-25-2011, 09:36 PM   #2
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Great info, thanks for compiling and posting.
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No Problem. Let me know if there is anything more specific you want info on. I tried to just get to the meat of what people will be asking about. I will update more and expand it. Hopefully I will be able to address the various new systems that it has and how they work. Now I just need to find more time (unless someone wants to make a thread on something like how the ACC works and I will link it).
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Nicely done. Added to the FAQ.
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Nice Job!! Can you explain the eco-system as to how it determines the different levels of cylinders ex 4cyl to 8cyl?
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I honestly have no idea how the decide when it is in eco mode, but I would assume it measure the load on the engine and the current fuel consumption. I should be able to better explain the MDS since there is a lot of info on it (and I understand it decently well I think). I will get on that either tonight after I finish my HW (due at midnight tonight) or some time tomorrow.
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Alright, I finally finished the thread on MDS. Took about 3 hours I tried to find as much info as possible to accurately describe what is going on. Took longer than I thought. Here is the link:

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f309/...works-1176294/
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Finally added another link. This one is for Easter Eggs in our beloved WK2s that not everyone knows about. People should pop over there, learn, and add. Little touches that get more out of our vehicles and add to the adventure.
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I have got a small torch in the back of the jeep is this a Easter egg ,they did not give me the 2011 book for the jeep 2010
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Yeah, they all have the light. It is documented, but I guess I can add it later.
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Eco

From observation it looks like anytime the current mpg is greater than the average ECO comes on. It may be as simple as that.
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I have seen it say eco lower than the average though. Try rolling around in second gear at like 20mpg. It will be lower than the average (most likely) and still have eco come on.
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Would some one explain in detail the difference between this WK2 5.7 and the Challenger/Charger?
Is the other motor different because : It is non MDS? More advance timing in its mapping?More compression?Doesnt use the VVT or doesnt have the variable intake? Do they have true duel exhaust and x pipe?
What changes to the WK2 5.7 would need to be done to obtain the same power with the same motor.
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They are the same motor, MDS, VVT and all. I believe the difference comes from the more agressive intake, exhaust, and tune.
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They are the same motor, MDS, VVT and all. I believe the difference comes from the more agressive intake, exhaust, and tune.
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