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post #676 of 2775 Old 12-18-2013, 02:24 PM
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The OEM tire sizes on OEM wheels have the same outline dimensions regardless of wheel diameter.

I have 20s that are XL rated, making them better for towing than 18s that are not XL rated. There are no differences in load carrying or tow capacity ratings as long as you stick with OEM sized tires with at least the same load rating (I think every name brand tire meets the WK2 load rating)

Two things to be careful, don't try to put OEM 17 inch wheel/tires on a WK2 with HD brakes. The SRT and SRT wheels are a different animal.


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post #677 of 2775 Old 12-24-2013, 06:11 AM
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Goodyear Wrangler AT Adventure

Anyone running these on a WK2 yet? Would love to get some feedback on them before I pull the trigger.

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post #678 of 2775 Old 12-24-2013, 07:54 AM
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There are a few people on the other forum running them and from what I see everyone loves them.
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Find a good dealer

Who will stand behind what they sell. Goodyear isnt known for the quality control. I try to avoid Goodyear tires at all costs but I may have to seriously consider these when the Lats are worn down.
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I drove my GC from the dealer to my tire store last Friday, Dec. 20.
Switched the stock Michelin latitudes out.
Installed Goodyear Wrangler Adventure with Kevlar, stock size. 265x60x18. Adventure package.
I had about 75 miles on the jeep mostly highway some street.
The Jeep drove just as nice with the Goodyears as with the Michelins.
The Goodyears much more tire and on Tirerack rated much better.
Running 35 lbs cold.
Very nice tire.
Looks like it should be the stock tire to me.
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Why Its Not the Stock Tire

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I drove my GC from the dealer to my tire store last Friday, Dec. 20.
Switched the stock Michelin latitudes out.
Installed Goodyear Wrangler Adventure with Kevlar, stock size. 265x60x18. Adventure package.
I had about 75 miles on the jeep mostly highway some street.
The Jeep drove just as nice with the Goodyears as with the Michelins.
The Goodyears much more tire and on Tirerack rated much better.
Running 35 lbs cold.
Very nice tire.
Looks like it should be the stock tire to me.
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Fleet average mpgs under CAFE and Jeep may have gotten a good deal from Michelin. Have over 25K miles on the LAtitudes with no issues. Perform great on road and decent on unimproved dirt roads and across grassy fields etc. Latitudes will perform better on the street than the Gys. Tire Rack reviews are worthless since 90% of reviewers cant tell the difference between oversteer and understeer.
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Fleet average mpgs under CAFE and Jeep may have gotten a good deal from Michelin. Have over 25K miles on the LAtitudes with no issues. Perform great on road and decent on unimproved dirt roads and across grassy fields etc. Latitudes will perform better on the street than the Gys. Tire Rack reviews are worthless since 90% of reviewers cant tell the difference between oversteer and understeer.
So you speak for the thousands of people on tire rack and have used both sets of tires on one vehicle to review them? Otherwise you are just speculating that the forteras aren't are good as the Michelins.
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So you speak for the thousands of people on tire rack and have used both sets of tires on one vehicle to review them? Otherwise you are just speculating that the forteras aren't are good as the Michelins.
No never posted a review there. Forteras vs Lats??? Simple statement of fact 90+% of the reviewers on Tire Rack dont know the difference between understeer and oversteer.
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Buying a tire is almost as subjective as buying a Jeep... and every tire is a compromise between mileage, traction, wear, pricing, ride feel.... Some tires fit ones situation more than others. I think every tire company makes excellent models as well as some duds. You need to read through the TR reviews, as well as other sites, to sense the experience reported and determine if it is at all relevant to you.

For example, I really like my OEM size 20 inch Nitto NT 421Qs. They are an extra load rated tire (stronger sidewalls, less squirm) that handle dry and wet pavement better than any truck or heavy SUV tire I've used including the OEM fortera, which is not a bad tire if you get a set that balances up. In most situations they are quieter than the OEM fortera. They also have very good snow and ice traction. But, on the other hand, the fortera sells for about the price of the Nitto. The Nitto isn't rated on TR because they don't sell them. So one buying a tire strictly by looking at TR ratings would be missing out on probably the best street all weather tire.

I wouldn't take them rock climbing or mudding, but they could probably take anything else thrown at them, including towing heavy. But they won't be the best tire for everyone here, not the prettiest tire.

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Fleet average mpgs under CAFE and Jeep may have gotten a good deal from Michelin. Have over 25K miles on the LAtitudes with no issues. Perform great on road and decent on unimproved dirt roads and across grassy fields etc. Latitudes will perform better on the street than the Gys. Tire Rack reviews are worthless since 90% of reviewers cant tell the difference between oversteer and understeer.
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So you speak for the thousands of people on tire rack and have used both sets of tires on one vehicle to review them? Otherwise you are just speculating that the forteras aren't are good as the Michelins.
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No never posted a review there. Forteras vs Lats??? Huh. Read my post again, sir. Simple statement of fact 90+% of the reviewers on Tire Rack dont know the difference between understeer and oversteer. Same thing would hold true on this board.
You two wanna stop picking fights... at least this holiday season. The difference between understeer and oversteer is hardly relevant to a discussion about Goodyear Wrangler AT Adventure tires.

I'd guess closer to 90% of the regulars here know the difference between understeer and oversteer... now over on those Rover forums, they would never know the difference or care... although they could tell you the difference between a Martinez and a Gibson martini without blinking an eyelash


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New to the forum and happy to say I am new jeep owner as well! I recently purchased a 14 White Grand Cherokee Limited with the stock 18" wheels and tires. I have read both of these tire threads and I think I may be more confused than when I started. I want to purchase either a 20x9 or 20x8.5 rim from OEwheels and I want to put a an agressive looking tire that is good for highway driving but will give me better performance on gravel roads that can be wet/snowy sometimes. I want the "off road" or all terrain look but I dont want it to suck on the highways. Any and all help is appreciated!

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New to the forum and happy to say I am new jeep owner as well! I recently purchased a 14 White Grand Cherokee Limited with the stock 18" wheels and tires. I have read both of these tire threads and I think I may be more confused than when I started. I want to purchase either a 20x9 or 20x8.5 rim from OEwheels and I want to put a an agressive looking tire that is good for highway driving but will give me better performance on gravel roads that can be wet/snowy sometimes. I want the "off road" or all terrain look but I dont want it to suck on the highways. Any and all help is appreciated!

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So what is the question? Input on tires or fitment (since you mentioned wheel width).

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So what is the question? Input on tires or fitment (since you mentioned wheel width).
Input on both please. I guess the look I am going for might not be possible in the 20"rim? Lets say I chose this BF Goodrich tire for example... (im open to suggestions on tires and looking for help on tires)

http://www.quadratec.com/products/92619_0XXX_PG.htm

If I put these tires on my current stock 18" rim I would get the...

31.6 265/65R18 10.40 $324.99

or

32.1 275/65R18 10.80 $274.99


And then if I got a 20" rim I feel like I dont have clearance to get that aggressive looking tread on the larger rim?



I am trying to learn what the numbers mean and how they will fit on a stock WK2 2014
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post #690 of 2775 Old 12-26-2013, 12:18 PM
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As posted elsewhere, 275/55/20s fit perfect on OEM wheels with no cutting needed. Anything larger runs the risk of some rub.

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