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post #556 of 2417 Old 09-14-2013, 09:37 PM
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I'm trying to figure out whats the most I could go in width mainly. I'm pretty sure i can run 33" no problems it's just i donno how wide i can go and I also don't want to waste money on trying different tires out. this is for looks and offroad use. I want it wider so I can have better grip on the roads. depending what size I can go I plan on getting the nitto terra grappler or trail grapplers. I also don't mind 295/70R18 or 305/60R18 just wondering if anyone tried these tires yet?


has anyone tried anything 12" wide??
Have you read these threads, in their entirety, regarding sizing?

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post #557 of 2417 Old 09-15-2013, 02:34 AM
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I have read the whole threads and I have seen people run 10.83 wide I just haven't seen anyone run 11.5 or 12 wide with the RRO 2.5 lift thats the main thing I'm thinkg to figure out before I have to do trial and error....
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After doing a lot of research, I ordered Toyo Open Country AT2s in a 265/65/18 for my 2011 Laredo X. While my Jeep was at the tire shop I strolled down the road for a cold Oktoberfest. As I was enjoying my tall, frosty, fall beverage the shop called me and said there was a problem... I went back to the shop and they had the old Lattitudes standing up next to the Toyos, and told me there was no way they would fit w/o rubbing. I tried to convince them that they would fit and they came back with the "look we do this for a living, we see this all the time, etc..." I told them to slap them, and to stop giving me lip (kidding, I said please). Long story short, the tires are on and there is ZERO RUBBING - in fact, not even close. Mathilde loves her new sneakers, and she's happy that she looks much tougher w/o the junk Michelins. Thanks so much for the folks here on Jeepforum who gave me the confidence to go against the "professionals" and put on rubber that I knew would fit. Cheers!!
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After doing a lot of research, I ordered Toyo Open Country AT2s in a 265/65/18 for my 2011 Laredo X. While my Jeep was at the tire shop I strolled down the road for a cold Oktoberfest. As I was enjoying my tall, frosty, fall beverage the shop called me and said there was a problem... I went back to the shop and they had the old Lattitudes standing up next to the Toyos, and told me there was no way they would fit w/o rubbing. I tried to convince them that they would fit and they came back with the "look we do this for a living, we see this all the time, etc..." I told them to slap them, and to stop giving me lip (kidding, I said please). Long story short, the tires are on and there is ZERO RUBBING - in fact, not even close. Mathilde loves her new sneakers, and she's happy that she looks much tougher w/o the junk Michelins. Thanks so much for the folks here on Jeepforum who gave me the confidence to go against the "professionals" and put on rubber that I knew would fit. Cheers!!
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Any pics?
I tried to upload one, but I'm too dumb.
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I tried to upload one, but I'm too dumb.
Open a free image hosting site like photobucket (what I use). Drag the images you want into the uploader. After they have uploaded each photo will have a few links depending on where they are going to be posted. Choose "IMG", the link will be copied and post it directly into this box.

You can also upload directly from your computer from below "Attach Files>Upload Images' but you will have to crop the size down. The photobucket method is the easiest (for me).
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post #563 of 2417 Old 09-17-2013, 03:43 PM
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Nitto NT 421Q*265/50R20XL 111V BSW

I picked up a nail too close to the sidewall to be reparable so I thought this would be an good opportunity to replace the OEM Forteras, not that there was anything wrong with them otherwise. I had over 30,000 miles on them with plenty of tread life left. My set was well balanced and well behaved within a narrow tire pressure range, no complaints.

I wanted a highway cruising tire as I have a set of dedicated snows. There seems to be a wide variety of 275/55R20 tires available, but I wanted to stay with the 265/50 stock size. Folks around here rave about the Nitto Terra Grapplers so I thought I’d give their recently released NT 421Q a try.

Initial impression is that, if anything, they are a tad noisier than the Goodyears. They seem to stick to dry pavement better and seem to be more responsive in turns. They have an XL 2403 lb load rating where the Goodyears had a SL 2150 lb rating so I was expecting some ride harshness. The Nittos seem to soak up small bumps better, however, larger bumps seem about the same. They seem to track very well where the Goodyears had a tendency to wander.

The Nittos look like a decent tire but they are more money than the Goodyears (and the older Nitto 420S) and harder to find. $780 vs $520 a set from Discount tire. They do have a made in America stamp on them. They are not directional but have outside/inside edges. They are also stamped M+S.

I’ll update when I get a few more miles.

Edit: After break in the tires are much quieter, less noise than the OEMs. These stick to dry roads without protest and inspire much confidence, much more than the Forteras. It is a heavy SUV, however. Worth the $240 difference, I dunno yet. By the way, you may notice a tire machine scratch on one of the photos. Tire shop replaced the wheel with a new one, no hassle.

Update: These seem to be the kind of tires that sometimes develop that minor "flat" spot thing after being parked overnight (I think due to rubber compound settling a bit affecting the balance). Takes 3-4 miles driving to smooth out. Very minor, unless thats the kind of thing that annoys you. A passenger would not notice.

Update 11/4: These tires stick to wet roads as well as they do to dry. They do "buzz" a bit between 40-60 mph on wet roads. Just a tad louder than the OEM Goodyears, which didn't have a buzz to them. Not nearly as noisy as the blizzacks or other all seasons tires I've used on other vehicles.

Update 12/13: Just drove in light snow and an icy driveway where others with snow tires had some issue. This tires stick very well to ice and snow, impressed. No tire spin, but I do also have QD.

Update 2/1: Traction does drop off as the snow gets over 3-4 inches and the temperatures plummet bellow 10 degrees. Much better than the OEM Forteras, but no contest for the Blizzaks.
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post #564 of 2417 Old 09-18-2013, 12:17 PM
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...LT275/65R18 Nitto Terra Grapplers... I mounted them on some black chrome Diamo 39 Black Chrome Wheels.
What kind of backspacing on those rims, same as factory? I just got my 2013 GC Trailhawk and looking to change the tires as soon as this are done. Just need to know if I cna keep the same rims or do I need to get new ones.

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I switched tires from the OEM 18" Michelins to 275/65/18's on my 12 GC Larado X that I had from a Navigator. I like the look and it seems to ride fine without any rubbing. I have not considered until now, the impact on the All-Wheel Drive system in the event of flat. I keep my stock spare tire. It appears the stock tire rotates 660.8 times per mile, while my new tires rotate only 628.8 times per mile. If I had a flat and replaced the flat with my spare would there be an impact to the drive system? If there is a flat should a deflate my tires to match the height of the spare or am I just over thinking this?
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Not sure when the stability control or traction control would kick in, but if you have QT I there should not be any driveline issues. That is a completely open system but I wouldn't drive too far. QT II is not completely open. A few slow miles in an emergency is probably not going to hurt regardless, but don't use 4 low.

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Thanks ColdCase. I have QT 1.
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2014 JGC Limited takeoff wheels on 2014 JGC Summit 5.7

Hi guys

I'm just trying to confirm something before pulling the trigger. It's my understanding that I can go down from 20" to 18" on the 2014 JGC Summit 5.7.

I've found a good deal on a 2014 JGC Limited take off wheels and I wanna buy for a set of snow tires to use on the Summit, I've heard some issues regarding offsets on different wheels but I'm assuming both Jeeps should be structurally the same and I would have no issues using the Limited wheels on the Summit.

Am I correct? Is this as simple as just put the 18" wheels and drive kinda task?

Thank you!
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It Should Work

Without any problems. I can recommend Blizzaks in 18" size for snow tires. thats what I have on my GC in the winter. Michelins for approx $50 more per tire.
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post #570 of 2417 Old 09-19-2013, 11:28 AM
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Hi guys

I'm just trying to confirm something before pulling the trigger. It's my understanding that I can go down from 20" to 18" on the 2014 JGC Summit 5.7.

I've found a good deal on a 2014 JGC Limited take off wheels and I wanna buy for a set of snow tires to use on the Summit, I've heard some issues regarding offsets on different wheels but I'm assuming both Jeeps should be structurally the same and I would have no issues using the Limited wheels on the Summit.

Am I correct? Is this as simple as just put the 18" wheels and drive kinda task?

Thank you!
You need to familiarize yourself with the Rules and Guidelines. We have multiples threads dedicated to wheels and tires including one solely for wheel and tire sizes.

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