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Unread 04-05-2011, 06:08 PM   #1
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TPMS question?

My apologizes if this has already been discussed but couldn't find the answer. I am purchasing new wheels but do not want to waste the money on tpms and then having to waste more money at the dealer to program them so besides the light on the dash being on is there anything else i need to worry about? It is a 2011 with the 17's. Thanks!

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Unread 04-05-2011, 06:43 PM   #2
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I've switched wheels in other brands (VW & Audi) and I've bought both new and used TPMS sensors for the new wheels and never had to have them programed so I don't think you'll need to for the Jeep either.

I believe the TPMS light is the only thing that will be affected but I'd buy new or used second set of TPMS sensors for your new wheels. New they are around $75 each and used I got a set of 4 for $135.

What wheels are you getting?
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Unread 04-05-2011, 06:43 PM   #3
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Are you swapping just the rims or rims and tires? Why not just spring to have the factory TPMS sensors swapped to the new wheels?

Sorry, don't see the logic in doing a way with a safety feature. Retaining the TPMS will allow you to monitor real time what the tire pressure on each wheel so you'll know when one specific one is a little low and in need of air.

Besides, you or the place you're getting wheels and tires should be able to program the TPMS yourself even if you bought new sensors.
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If you really don't want to pay to have them swapped over, make this:

http://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-s...pipe-bomb.html
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Thats genius!
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Are you swapping just the rims or rims and tires? Why not just spring to have the factory TPMS sensors swapped to the new wheels?

Sorry, don't see the logic in doing a way with a safety feature. Retaining the TPMS will allow you to monitor real time what the tire pressure on each wheel so you'll know when one specific one is a little low and in need of air.

Besides, you or the place you're getting wheels and tires should be able to program the TPMS yourself even if you bought new sensors.
While I agree it is a nice feature, I really don't think it is a necessary safety feature. People have been looking at their tires for years to determine if one is low in air. It is nice to see a readout on the dash but the other method has worked for a lot of years.

If I ever get new wheels, I will not get the sensors put back in unless it is included in the price. There is no way I am paying for that feature on new wheels.
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While I agree it is a nice feature, I really don't think it is a necessary safety feature. People have been looking at their tires for years to determine if one is low in air. It is nice to see a readout on the dash but the other method has worked for a lot of years.

If I ever get new wheels, I will not get the sensors put back in unless it is included in the price. There is no way I am paying for that feature on new wheels.
But it is that reasoning ^^ that has gotten people killed in the past when riding on low profile tires. A low profile tire won't visibly show it is low until it's way too late. That is the chief reason that it is now required by law to be installed in all cars 2009 and newer. I'm also sure that fuel economy had something to do with it as well.
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But it is that reasoning ^^ that has gotten people killed in the past when riding on low profile tires. A low profile tire won't visibly show it is low until it's way too late. That is the chief reason that it is now required by law to be installed in all cars 2009 and newer. I'm also sure that fuel economy had something to do with it as well.
This is the first vehicle that I have owned that has the TPMS BS, I did not know it was a law. How stupid is that to make a law that is has to be there? If people are too stupid/lazy/careless/etc... to make sure their vehicle is safe, then they deserve what they get. I really hate laws that try to protect people from being dumb, it never works like planned.

more weight, more sensors that fail, more money for parts, more money to fix parts when they break, etc... It is just a bad idea all around IMO.
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But it is that reasoning ^^ that has gotten people killed in the past when riding on low profile tires. A low profile tire won't visibly show it is low until it's way too late. That is the chief reason that it is now required by law to be installed in all cars 2009 and newer. I'm also sure that fuel economy had something to do with it as well.
Uhhh.... just use a tire pressure gauge and check at least once a month? Or even check every time you fill the fuel tank?
It's really not that hard.
Yes, having TPMS is a nice convenience. But, as Redneck said..... more parts = more $$ and potentially more headache.
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I'm not going to lie, I like it in my mom's WK2, but I would be in serious trouble with my TJ because I run my tires at 20psi. I agree that all of the BS they are putting in cars not only makes them more expensive from the start, but also more expensive to to own and fix, and we just don't need that garbage in there.
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This is the first vehicle that I have owned that has the TPMS BS, I did not know it was a law. How stupid is that to make a law that is has to be there? If people are too stupid/lazy/careless/etc... to make sure their vehicle is safe, then they deserve what they get. I really hate laws that try to protect people from being dumb, it never works like planned.

more weight, more sensors that fail, more money for parts, more money to fix parts when they break, etc... It is just a bad idea all around IMO.
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Uhhh.... just use a tire pressure gauge and check at least once a month? Or even check every time you fill the fuel tank?
It's really not that hard.
Yes, having TPMS is a nice convenience. But, as Redneck said..... more parts = more $$ and potentially more headache.
Like I said before, I think having TPMS is a great idea, more so when you can monitor what the exact pressure is each tire. Speaking of, I have to add some few pounds of air to the rear tires on my GC.

Do I think there needed to be a law to force automakers to include them on vehicles, no. I think it is another example of trying to protect people from themselves.

It's unfortunate that so many people are lazy and stupid when it comes to maintaining their vehicles. You're spending all this money on the thing annually but yet you're not going to perform simple tasks to ensure it's longevity.
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This is the first vehicle that I have owned that has the TPMS BS, I did not know it was a law. How stupid is that to make a law that is has to be there? If people are too stupid/lazy/careless/etc... to make sure their vehicle is safe, then they deserve what they get. I really hate laws that try to protect people from being dumb, it never works like planned.

more weight, more sensors that fail, more money for parts, more money to fix parts when they break, etc... It is just a bad idea all around IMO.
Remember the Ford/Firestone fiasco? That is where TPMS started then became mandatory on all '08+ vehicles sold in the US.People are lazy and dumb these days and never care about the 2nd biggest investment they will ever make.Been turning wrenches professionally for 15 years now and not much suprises me anymore at how dumb people really are.
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I frequently get holes in my tires due to sharp rocks or nails or screws when they grade our nine miles of gravel road, and for some reason the tires rarely go completely flat, but they do get down to 20-25 pounds and then just stay there. It has been a godsend being able to know when the tires are low via TPMS these past five or six years since they started putting them on cars - I guess I'm just a ******* for not being able to always tell this from a casual look or while driving. TPMS is great for folks like me....
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It doesn't seem anybody said that: if your new wheels/tires have different pressure from original tires you will need to have computer in your car reprogrammed by dealer so that it "knows" when to report low pressure.
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It doesn't seem anybody said that: if your new wheels/tires have different pressure from original tires you will need to have computer in your car reprogrammed by dealer so that it "knows" when to report low pressure.
By law the dealerships can not alter the TPMS system in anyway,no lowering the thresh hold psi,no raising the thresh hold psi,and no disabling of the system in anyway.Good luck finding one that will.
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