With the perforated leather in an Overland, you need to use a non cream treatment. Otherwise the perforations will clog and they will look dreadful. I use Zymol. It does give leather a slight sheen. The sheen can be buffed off. Any remaining sheen will disappear after a few days. Be careful around the embossed stitching with an oil based treatment as it will soak into the thread. After 2 months the leather seats are softing up and feel great.
General use will soften them up too. We have 12,500 miles on the overland now and the seats have never been conditioned. They are nice and smooth, I just keep them clean. Conditioner has its pros and cons. The big con I hate is the shine it leaves, I like the leather to have a dull surface to it. I like the whole interior to be like that except for the chrome and wood grain, that's why I never use armor all or any other dressing either.
The Orvis has been neglected and needs help. Back on here after a long time. Time to research some help haha
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