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Unread 05-29-2014, 12:35 PM   #1
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Replacement Windshiled - OEM vs OEE - Recomendations?

I need to have my windshield replaced in my 2011. I had a windshiled replaced in a 2004 and it had waves. Felt like I was wearing a new pair of glasses. I don't want that again.

Do I need to insist on OEM or will OEE glass be the same?

I'm in southern Michigan and have AAA insurance. Safelight is their preffered glass company. They charge $505 out of pocket for OEM glass. Not sure if AAA will approve OEM. Safelight said they almost never do and require OEE glass because it's cheaper.

Now I called Henerson Glass and they want $244 to replace what they say is OEM glass. Half the price of Safelight. Is this too good to be true?

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Unread 05-29-2014, 01:09 PM   #2
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I need to have my windshield replaced in my 2011. I had a windshiled replaced in a 2004 and it had waves. Felt like I was wearing a new pair of glasses. I don't want that again.

Do I need to insist on OEM or will OEE glass be the same?

I'm in southern Michigan and have AAA insurance. Safelight is their preffered glass company. They charge $505 out of pocket for OEM glass. Not sure if AAA will approve OEM. Safelight said they almost never do and require OEE glass because it's cheaper.

Now I called Henerson Glass and they want $244 to replace what they say is OEM glass. Half the price of Safelight. Is this too good to be true?
New pair of glasses, correct on that. I had a 98 Ford Expedition, had windshield replaced, same as you described, made them put on another factory windshield and it was then fixed right.
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The OEM windshields on the VW Touareg were wavy from the factory in many cases....
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Ok, over 20 years as an Auto Glass shop owner and FINALLY retired from that biz. ALWAYS insist on OEM.
Safelites own brand is OEE, A designation made up by them. It is made in Enfield, NC and is JUNK. Then there is re labelled Chinese parts. Safelite even re labels theirs.
You want a REAL Pilkington. Insist on seeing the label on it to see origin of manufacture because all of them rebadge Chinese junk with their names on it. There is a DOT code on every piece of glass that tells you where it was made. Insist on watching them install it and make sure the glass is primed EVEN IF THEY SAY ITS PRIMERLESS GLUE. They also need to prime the body and all scratches they make. If you have a rain sensor if you don't use OEM it will have issues working right. Make sure a new sensor pad is used too if you have one.
AND DONT EVER TRUST ONE DAMN WORD SAFELITE SAYS, Or AAA for that matter. They have a special deal with one another.
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Ok, over 20 years as an Auto Glass shop owner and FINALLY retired from that biz. ALWAYS insist on OEM.
Safelites own brand is OEE, A designation made up by them. It is made in Enfield, NC and is JUNK. Then there is re labelled Chinese parts. Safelite even re labels theirs.
You want a REAL Pilkington. Insist on seeing the label on it to see origin of manufacture because all of them rebadge Chinese junk with their names on it. There is a DOT code on every piece of glass that tells you where it was made. Insist on watching them install it and make sure the glass is primed EVEN IF THEY SAY ITS PRIMERLESS GLUE. They also need to prime the body and all scratches they make. If you have a rain sensor if you don't use OEM it will have issues working right. Make sure a new sensor pad is used too if you have one.
AND DONT EVER TRUST ONE DAMN WORD SAFELITE SAYS, Or AAA for that matter. They have a special deal with one another.
Ann Arbor Auto Glass told me they use "PGW" glass for their non-OEM version. They said I can get OEM glas made by Pilkington for $320.

I'm leaning towards going with them. I sincerely appreciate the info and advice but I'm not certain I can be as adamant to insist on watching the entire install. Not knowing what the heck I'm doing, I wouldn't know if they're doing it wrong or not!
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It's been said many times that if you have the rain-sensing wipers, than OEM glass is preferred. Some folks have reported issues with the sensing with non-OEM glass.
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^^^ Yes definitely use OEM if you have rain sensors. They may still come with the bracket glued in place.
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I don't have rain sensors but I still want OEM. Does the windshield have to have Mopar on it to be considered OEM or will a windshield from Pilkington fit the bill?
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I had my OEM windshield with rain sensor replaced on my 2002 Jeep 5 years ago with a OEM replacement ( at that time safelite did not have the rain sensor glass available) . State Farm covered the balance after my $250 deductible . The windshield has held up well . The guy who installed it had been installing windshields for 25 years. he did a great job. I got a lifetime warranty against any installation defects .
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I had my OEM windshield with rain sensor replaced on my 2002 Jeep 5 years ago with a OEM replacement ( at that time safelite did not have the rain sensor glass available) . State Farm covered the balance after my $250 deductible . The windshield has held up well . The guy who installed it had been installing windshields for 25 years. he did a great job. I got a lifetime warranty against any installation defects .
Do you recall where that was and if it had the Mopar label on the glass?
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Yes it did ........or does....I still own the car .
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OK guys, appreciate your patience with me.

I spoke with A2 Auto Glass (very reputable in my area) again this morning and they said I can get Mopar glass for $320. It is made by "PGW". They also said I can get "PGW" non-OEM glass that they have had excellent results with for $265. My vehicle does not have rain sensors so no issue there.

http://www.a2autoglass.com/

My insurance (AAA) will not comensate me for Mopar glass because there is a non-OEM glass that meets their requirements. My comp deductable is $250 so no use even making a claim. I changed this moving forward so glass coverage will be $0.

Do you see any issues with using non-OEM PGW glass?
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Dodge16vrt is obviously the expert in this thread so I hope he chimes in, but I would like to add my comment. Modern vehicle designs have changed to remove weight while improving survivability for occupants in a crash. As a result, windshield glass has become a key structural component and, in my opinion, should not be modified in any manner. Quality issues aside, any differences between the replacement glass and the OEM installed glass compromises crash worthiness of the vehicle. I think this arguement can be used to insist an insurance company pay for OEM glass, but even if I had to bear the entire expense myself I would never have anything other than OEM glass installed. Its not worth the risk.
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I have Safelite (OEE) with rain sensors. No problems here
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Unread 05-31-2014, 11:59 AM   #15
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Ok, forgot about this thread, Sorry. Anyone with a Safelite windshield that is happy with it is a one in a million. Ask even a Safelite installer what they think. Its the worst on the market.
Rain sensor glass should ALWAYS be OEM.
If OEE is actually OEM then why isn't it OEM? And why don't vehicle manufaturers use it? Hmm.
Heres why. OEE designation was made up by Safelite so they could compete usuing their brand glass. OEE MEETS DOT standards while OEM EXCEEDS it. I could post 1000 pictures of defective OEE glass to 1 true OEM defect.
True, Mopar glass is NOT made by Mopar but a few different manufacturers. PGW (PPG) is one of them. Look at the DOT code. The PGW Mopar will be made at the PGW(PPG) US Plant while the PGW (XYG) non Mopar will be made at XinYI glass in China.
If the PGW glass non Mopar has a US made sticker on it then it is OEM quality, If not well its not.
Pilkington (I was an operations manager for them) Used to be ONLY OEM but this is no longer the case. They were always known as the Cadillac of glass and you paid a premium for it.
Nowadays, They all have an OEE line but only a few get the OEM title and you still have to make sure you are getting a true OEM.
The difference between DEALER OEM and direct supplier OEM is dealer will have the make name.
For example, a manufacture(original) installed glass will always say Toyota on it and underneath say PGW, Lamisafe, LN Libbey Nippon etc. Those are OEM makers. Now you can get an OEM quality glass and it wont say Toyota juts Libbey Nippon, PGW etc. but is exactly thew same glass as long as it comes from the OEM plant.
The cost differences are huge with certain makes. Example, 2005 Corolla dealer glass my cost $890, cost direct from PGW $45.
My shop would not install anything aftermarket unless requested.
If your vehicle is within 3 years of new then DEMAND OEM glass. And Mopar glass has a NAGS part number and can be billed as such by the glass shop just like Fords Carlite glass. There are a few ways to get your Mopar glass and get them to pay. I keep my vehicles registered in SC so free glass for me!
That windshield for your Jeep costs me $78 plus materials for an OEM non Mopar.
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