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Unread 03-23-2014, 09:32 AM   #61
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Admitting ignorance on this subject, can you please explain the issue, why it's sorely needed? I'm not getting any leaks I can see, but maybe it's an internal thing? You make it sound like an important issue, just want to understand. Thanks!
I've never heard people complain about it on diesels but with the hemi's putting the catch can in keeps the intake manifold a lot cleaner because its not dumping oil in it anymore. It also will make the engine run a little better because the oil will actually lower the octane of the fuel a little bit and cause detonation. That usually will only come into play though when you are running a tuner.

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Unread 03-23-2014, 09:57 AM   #62
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I've never heard people complain about it on diesels but with the hemi's putting the catch can in keeps the intake manifold a lot cleaner because its not dumping oil in it anymore. It also will make the engine run a little better because the oil will actually lower the octane of the fuel a little bit and cause detonation. That usually will only come into play though when you are running a tuner.
Same issue applies with a diesel as described above on the Hemi. It is actually worse on a turbo diesel. There can be diesel particulates (soot) in the crankcase gases, and it dumps just ahead of the turbo, so all this gunk can coat the turbo and intercooler.

I'm no expert, but this is much discussed in the diesel pickup forums.

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Unread 04-01-2014, 05:59 PM   #63
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Thanks for the info Chris. I'll buy the intake the day it's available. Just do me a favor and don't let them put any effort into making the intake quiet.

Any plans on working a full exhaust? Not just dpf back? I know that will require some tuning and deleting, but would be great to see something in the long term. Stupid emissions!
Mush we do sound tune the intake to some extent but not like the OEM. On the 3.6 in the wrangler they had added all this weight and other material to change the sound it was crazy. In that application our guys did use a Helmholtz Resonator to help with the sound but it still sounds way better then stock and in my opinion bad ***. If you get a chance look up Herman von Helmholtz (I had to when my super nerds told me about the resonator) this guy was crazy smart and so far ahead of his time it is unbelievable. Sorry for the digression sometimes I like to talk about some of the cool things I have learned here.

As for an exhaust without the emissions equipment we wonít be doing anything like that. California Air Resources Board is a neighbor of ours and we have always taken the approach of achieving the best performance gains with all the emissions equipment intact. Thatís just our thing and we lead the industry when it comes to clean diesel performance and promoting the acceptance of diesels in the US.

Sorry it took so long to respond. I have been traveling like crazy but I have some time and will respond to everyoneís questions in the next few days. I also just sent diverB a bunch of photos of his jeep getting digitized for the CAI.
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Unread 04-01-2014, 06:15 PM   #64
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Have been away from the forum for a few days, looks like there is steady progress and planning going on. The new y-pipe looks like a winner.

Sounds pretty cool how you go about designing the CAI.

I don't know about the feasibility of before and after dyno runs for every modification, sounds like a lot of dyno time, but I would also like to see numbers, particularly for any more serious mods, like turbo modifications, just to be sure there is some benefit.

Sounds like you have a great job Chris - I'm sure you see some amazing projects there.
Onebluemcm we will do dyno testing on the various modifications as we go along. As they become available I will gladly share with everyone.

On a side note we installed one of our Banks 630T engines in a 2003 Duramax Dully to use as a test mule. Obviously we have made some modifications including a larger turbo and it is currently making 300Hp and 500TRQ. IT is loaded to 10k pounds and I can still get the rear tires to light up in first and second gear!! The 3.0L VM is one bad *** little engine that I am proud to be involved with. I canít wait to get the 3.0L Ram in here especially after getting to spend time in the Grand.
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Unread 04-01-2014, 10:39 PM   #65
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My GC with the front end removed to allow mapping of the engine bay in preparation for CAI and who knows what else...???



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Unread 04-01-2014, 10:50 PM   #66
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Onebluemcm we will do dyno testing on the various modifications as we go along. As they become available I will gladly share with everyone.

On a side note we installed one of our Banks 630T engines in a 2003 Duramax Dully to use as a test mule. Obviously we have made some modifications including a larger turbo and it is currently making 300Hp and 500TRQ. IT is loaded to 10k pounds and I can still get the rear tires to light up in first and second gear!! The 3.0L VM is one bad *** little engine that I am proud to be involved with. I can’t wait to get the 3.0L Ram in here especially after getting to spend time in the Grand.
Here is the key, what kind of mileage did it get?
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Unread 04-04-2014, 06:29 AM   #67
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Onebluemcm we will do dyno testing on the various modifications as we go along. As they become available I will gladly share with everyone.

On a side note we installed one of our Banks 630T engines in a 2003 Duramax Dully to use as a test mule. Obviously we have made some modifications including a larger turbo and it is currently making 300Hp and 500TRQ. IT is loaded to 10k pounds and I can still get the rear tires to light up in first and second gear!! The 3.0L VM is one bad *** little engine that I am proud to be involved with. I canít wait to get the 3.0L Ram in here especially after getting to spend time in the Grand.
I can't wait until you guys work on the Ram EcoDiesel too. That's what I am planning on buying next. Are you guys working on the transmissions too? The 8HP70 can only handle 516 Foot Pounds of Torque.
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Unread 04-17-2014, 12:33 AM   #68
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Just wanted to publicly say thank you to Chris and the gang at BANKS POWER for the care box of coffee and BANKS shirt and hat they sent me in the mail. Cant wait to see what else has been done to the Jeep
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Unread 04-17-2014, 09:18 AM   #69
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How soon before they come out with stuff for our ECO?
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Unread 04-17-2014, 04:44 PM   #70
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How soon before they come out with stuff for our ECO?
Yes

Please hurry

ECU, Intake, Exhaust?

Getting impatient

NEED MORE POWER!!!
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Unread 05-04-2014, 02:43 AM   #71
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Do we have a ETA on the Cold Air Induction ??

Would love to see the MAF blade in a new 4inch housing with a 4inch pipe
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Unread 05-04-2014, 06:36 AM   #72
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Do we have a ETA on the Cold Air Induction ?? Would love to see the MAF blade in a new 4inch housing with a 4inch pipe
Afe has one out already
Saw in another jeep chat

Afe 51-12472
Or
Afe 52-12472
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Unread 05-04-2014, 06:37 AM   #73
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http://silkroadgarage.com/store/acco...itemid=1928053

This has been the cheapest one I've seen so far
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Unread 05-05-2014, 04:36 AM   #74
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Afe has one out already
Saw in another jeep chat

Afe 51-12472
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Afe 52-12472
yes I know but its not enclosed, waiting to see what Banks comes up with.
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Unread 05-16-2014, 06:15 PM   #75
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How about an update on what is going on..
Thanks...
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