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post #1 of 41 Old 10-04-2014, 11:39 AM Thread Starter
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My 2012 Overland got T-Boned Thursday night. Help assess the damage

Only 23,000 miles on it. As i work from home. I dont have an estimate yet. What is your assessment of the damage? Book value is anywhere from 30-34k.

I'm trying to gauge how many thousands of dollars in damages we've got here. No way it's enough for insurance to total it. I'm tempted to immediately trade it in for a 2015 as i dont think the damn thing will ever be the same. I had planned on waiting for the New redesign in 2017 before buying another one.

And it's all on my insurance as the person driving the older model Suburban who ran the red light didnt have insurance.





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post #2 of 41 Old 10-04-2014, 11:44 AM
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Just gonna guess about $15-$20k in damage. There will be rear suspension damage too. Might get totaled just because of that.

My wife recently hit a deer with her Jetta. It was about $10k in damage, car was worth about $16k. Insurance totaled it even though the damage was about 62% of the value. Usually they don't total it until damage is at about 80% or more of the value. Every situation is unique.

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Just gonna guess about $15-$20k in damage. There will be rear suspension damage too. Might get totaled just because of that.

My wife recently hit a deer with her Jetta. It was about $10k in damage, car was worth about $16k. Insurance totaled it even though the damage was about 62% of the value. Usually they don't total it until damage is at about 80% or more of the value. Every situation is unique.

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I went on Edmunds to get a value of it... 5.7 hemi overland, low miles.. Trade in was 30k.. list price was 34k. But that was for a model in outstanding condition. The trade in value on one that has been wrecked to this degree has to be thousands less. I'm going to pitch a fit with my agent to see what can happen.

I went on the Jeep site and configured a new one and i can only get that interior similar to mine (new saddle) in a Summit. The reason i got the Overland back in the day was because i didnt want the same color dash ( I dont think it looks near as good as mine with the black dash) and I didnt want all that adaptive driving crap.
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What this will all come down to is labor hours. Im quite sure there is subtantial rear suspension damage, and many of those parts will have to be OEM. Also, if there is the slightest bit of frame damage, they will likely total.....

So sorry to see this man!

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Hope all riders were ok...

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Hope all riders were ok...
I am suffering with whiplash. Very tender in my neck, scapula and C6 area. But not as bad as the Dr. said i might be.

I'm just sick about my GC.
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Mike, as long as you are doing ok…the JGC will be fixed…but I know what you mean…been there….

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on a 2012, where are the airbags located? i am trying to figure out why none of them deployed. Arent there side curtain bags somewhere?
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post #9 of 41 Old 10-04-2014, 10:54 PM
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•Seat Airbag - A Seat AirBag (SAB) (also known as a pelvic and thoracic airbag) is secured to each outboard front seat back frame, where it is concealed beneath the seat back trim cover and foam.

•Side Curtain Airbag - A side curtain airbag (also known as a Side AirBag Inflatable Curtain/SABIC) is secured to each inside roof side rail above the headliner, which extends from the A-pillar to just beyond the C-pillar.

Deployment of the SRS components depends upon the angle and severity of an impact. Deployment is not based upon vehicle speed; rather, deployment is based upon the rate of deceleration as measured by the forces of gravity (G force) upon the acceleration-type impact sensors, or by a pressure wave within a front door as measured by the pressure-type impact sensor. When an impact is severe enough, the microcontroller within the ORC signals the inflator of the appropriate airbag units to deploy their airbag cushions.



Your collision may not have been severe enough to deploy the side bags.

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[QUOTE=ColdCase

Deployment of the SRS components depends upon the angle and severity of an impact. Deployment is not based upon vehicle speed; rather, deployment is based upon the rate of deceleration as measured by the forces of gravity (G force) upon the acceleration-type impact sensors, or by a pressure wave within a front door as measured by the pressure-type impact sensor. When an impact is severe enough, the microcontroller within the ORC signals the inflator of the appropriate airbag units to deploy their airbag cushions.
Your collision may not have been severe enough to deploy the side bags.[/QUOTE]


Clear as mud.
Judging from that first picture, if that impact wasn't severe enough to deploy the side bags, something is seriously wrong with that system.
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post #11 of 41 Old 10-06-2014, 07:56 AM
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Mike, I hope you are feeling better quickly...the stress an accident puts on one's body can be significant, even when there is no "direct" and visible injury. The vehicle...it can be replaced.

On the airbags, I'm suspecting that related to what CC mentions, the angle and location of the "t-bone" judging from the photos may not have been something that was within the side-airbag trigger thresholds.

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post #12 of 41 Old 10-06-2014, 08:01 AM
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That does not look like near a severe enough collision to deploy airbags to me, some sheet metal damage but it didn't ever break or bent the wheel or break any glass. Looks like somewhat of a glancing blow and toward the rear, relatively minor seems to me. That sheet metal is an easy fix, dunno about the suspension. If the airbags deployed, they could have hurt more than the bump from the crash... its no fun being hit by an airbag(s). During low speed collisions they can cause more injuries than save.

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As the OP said, the other driver ran a red light & T-boned him. My understanding of T-boned means the guilty driver collided straight into (or at a slight angle) the side of the OP's vehicle where the damage is. Which makes sense if someone runs a red light & 2 vehicles enter the intersection at the same time. That's what I'm seeing from the pictures. Not exactly what I'd call a glancing blow.
Being injured or not by airbags isn't the issue. Not deploying like they're intended to do is. When have you ever seen someone running a red light going slow?
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Again that damage is slight, nowhere near what you'd expect to cause airbag deployment. There does not appear to be a malfunction. That does not appear to be the kind of damage that you would get from a high speed T bone. How do you know how fast the other car was going? How fast was the OP going... it gets complicated fast.

Perhaps the culprit slammed on his brakes when he noticed the OP, and slowed slowed down enough to just bump the OP a bit and because the OP was moving at some speed, scraped across the front of the other vehicle causing most of the damage. The other vehicle is a large suburban truck and if it was moving more than a couple MPH at the time of the crash, you would see a lot more damage than that.

I've been in a few fender benders and it doesn't take much for passengers to fell thrown about wildly only to discover a couple small dents.

Just saying that jumping to a conclusion that the airbag should have deployed with the information at hand may be short sighted. That doesn't look like much of a bump.

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in my opinion, the other driver was going in the neighborhood of 40 or 45 mph. That suburban is totaled. Might he have been going 30-35? i doubt it, not with the amount of damage that vehicle suffered. I was spun around into a 180. At the conclusion of the wreck my vehicle was perfectly facing the other direction.
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