[tjkj2002]

Originally Posted by Moparluvr

Excuse my ignorance when asking this question as this is my first Jeep and my first real attempt at modding an SUV. I've pretty much been into cars up until this point.

Does a lift like this void the warranty of the Jeep? I know for a definitive answer I'd need to check with the dealer but I wanted to get some real world experience type answers.

Being IFS/IRS with a spacer lift and a buttload of computers controlling everything I can say they will void pretty much everything with the drivetrain.


Oh and who ever stated that a spacer lift retains the OEM ride is full of it,it makes it worse.

[mchassler]

Originally Posted by Moparluvr

Excuse my ignorance when asking this question as this is my first Jeep and my first real attempt at modding an SUV. I've pretty much been into cars up until this point.

Does a lift like this void the warranty of the Jeep? I know for a definitive answer I'd need to check with the dealer but I wanted to get some real world experience type answers.

Originally Posted by volvite

You can bet that if you have any issues when you take the vehicle back to the dealer they will try and blame it on the lift. It's not a stock component so that is a modified vehicle and try and void the warranty.

Magnuson-Moss Act 1975 states the dealership (or whoever is the accuser) must PROVE that the modification caused the damage/problem - pick your word.

Could a dealership give you a hard time over it, sure they could - no arguement there, but I doubt it would be a huge concern.

My dealer told me that they will honor my factory warranty with this lift, again, they have an off-road performance shop and sell new Jeeps with lifts installed at the time of customer pick-up - you can add it into the purchase form. Needless to say they are all about off-road modifications - I can't say the same is true for your dealer.

Originally Posted by tjkj2002

Being IFS/IRS with a spacer lift and a buttload of computers controlling everything I can say they will void pretty much everything with the drivetrain.

Oh and who ever stated that a spacer lift retains the OEM ride is full of it,it makes it worse.

I am not sure I completely agree and I bet that RRO wouldn't either. This lift is designed to fall within Jeeps intended specs of driveline angles and such for Grand Cherokees equipped with Quadra-Lift. Again, you can't use this lift in-conjunction with QL-equipped Jeeps. It is designed with the functionality of the Off-Road 2 setting. A 2.5" lift with a vehicle of this wheelbase will not alter the driveline angles that greatly - basic geometry.

Computers controlling what? It's a standard coil suspension. Sure the Selec-Terrain is "advanced" (i.e., new to Jeep - its been in Land Rover's for years) but it won't have bearing in this application. It simply decides axle and wheel managment.

I am sure the ride won't be as good but it will be not be horrible. I am betting it will hardly be noticeable, perhaps if you ride in a non-lifted and then a lifted you would notice. Ride in a QL Jeep in OR2 and see how it is. Of course your CG has changed so it feels more top heavy but you also haven't increased your footprint and/or tire-sidewall height - which most would do when lifting permanently. A lot will depend on each individuals tire setup as well.

If I am grossly wrong, please let me know. Perhaps I am overlooking something but a 2.5" spacer lift is nothing to get overly concerend with, your minimally changing angles of the drivetrain while still keeping them within spec of the manufacturer for a little more clearance and slightley taller tires.

And, considering that RRO's website says it will NOT void the warranty I bet you would have thier backing* if your dealership tells you otherwise - don't take my word for it I am not RRO. *Assuming proper installation of thier product and use of it in its intended fashion - typical legal loopholes.

[AJeepZJ]

^ Im inclined to agree with you. My Jeep dealership did not void my extended warranty after I installed an OME. This dealer also installs offroad packages.

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[tjkj2002]

Originally Posted by mchassler

Magnuson-Moss Act 1975 states the dealership (or whoever is the accuser) must PROVE that the modification caused the damage/problem - pick your word.

Could a dealership give you a hard time over it, sure they could - no arguement there, but I doubt it would be a huge concern.

My dealer told me that they will honor my factory warranty with this lift, again, they have an off-road performance shop and sell new Jeeps with lifts installed at the time of customer pick-up - you can add it into the purchase form. Needless to say they are all about off-road modifications - I can't say the same is true for your dealer.




I am not sure I completely agree and I bet that RRO wouldn't either. This lift is designed to fall within Jeeps intended specs of driveline angles and such for Grand Cherokees equipped with Quadra-Lift. Again, you can't use this lift in-conjunction with QL-equipped Jeeps. It is designed with the functionality of the Off-Road 2 setting. A 2.5" lift with a vehicle of this wheelbase will not alter the driveline angles that greatly - basic geometry.

Computers controlling what? It's a standard coil suspension. Sure the Selec-Terrain is "advanced" (i.e., new to Jeep - its been in Land Rover's for years) but it won't have bearing in this application. It simply decides axle and wheel managment.

I am sure the ride won't be as good but it will be not be horrible. I am betting it will hardly be noticeable, perhaps if you ride in a non-lifted and then a lifted you would notice. Ride in a QL Jeep in OR2 and see how it is. Of course your CG has changed so it feels more top heavy but you also haven't increased your footprint and/or tire-sidewall height - which most would do when lifting permanently. A lot will depend on each individuals tire setup as well.

If I am grossly wrong, please let me know. Perhaps I am overlooking something but a 2.5" spacer lift is nothing to get overly concerend with, your minimally changing angles of the drivetrain while still keeping them within spec of the manufacturer for a little more clearance and slightley taller tires.

And, considering that RRO's website says it will NOT void the warranty I bet you would have thier backing* if your dealership tells you otherwise - don't take my word for it I am not RRO. *Assuming proper installation of thier product and use of it in its intended fashion - typical legal loopholes.

Originally Posted by Carolina_WK

^ Im inclined to agree with you. My Jeep dealership did not void my extended warranty after I installed an OME. This dealer also installs offroad packages.

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Yeah and all on JK's.

You have a issue with RRO's stuff good luck getting them to do anything about it,let alone stand behind there product.Just do a search on any offroad type forum about RRO and over 95% are complaints.

[MaineJeep11]

So, anyone else tried this RR lift? I would appreciate any feedback on ride quality, difficulty of installation, etc. I'd like to hear some more opinions before I consider purchasing because I'm not mechanically inclined at all, unfortunately. Thanks guys

[mchassler]

Started installing the lift yesterday. The back went on in roughly 2-hours.

The front on the other hand.... only got the passenger side done in about 4-hours. The axle came out (RROs instructions say this may happen). With the CV boot on we couldn't tell what the spindles looked like in order to put it back in. Plus, with the extra 2" it was hard to compress the strut and coil enough to get the axle back to "level" in order to pop it back in. Eventually we got the CV boot retainer ring off and were able to see how it lined up and with some careful pulling of the knuckle assembly, jacking of the strut & coil from beneath the control arm and pushing on the axle we got it back in.

Didn't get to the drivers side as it got dark out. Will attempt that later this week when my buddy is available again. I'll also get a few photos up.

I would say if you are not "mechanically inclined" do not try it at home. My buddy is an ex-Chrysler mechanic and I am a Mechanical Engineer and he and I have been working on Jeeps and cars for more than half of our 30-yr lives. Also, Air tools & WD-40 were very necessary to get a lot of the bolts off. If you don't have them it will take twice as long.

Suggestion, if you do plan to install the lift, consider switching to the BWoody Sway bar links while you are at it. You have to remove one , if not both of their bolts them anyway, may as well do it all at once. When my lift is on I am going to go talk with BWoody to see if they wanna make longer Sway Bars for lifted Jeeps. If you don't know BWoody, check his website out. He makes a Short Ram Air Intake for the 2011 WK2s - mine is the HEMI prototype.

[kennyc67]

That is just a beautiful Jeep! And the background is great with it!!

[MaineJeep11]

Originally Posted by mchassler

Started installing the lift yesterday. The back went on in roughly 2-hours.

The front on the other hand.... only got the passenger side done in about 4-hours. The axle came out (RROs instructions say this may happen). With the CV boot on we couldn't tell what the spindles looked like in order to put it back in. Plus, with the extra 2" it was hard to compress the strut and coil enough to get the axle back to "level" in order to pop it back in. Eventually we got the CV boot retainer ring off and were able to see how it lined up and with some careful pulling of the knuckle assembly, jacking of the strut & coil from beneath the control arm and pushing on the axle we got it back in.

Didn't get to the drivers side as it got dark out. Will attempt that later this week when my buddy is available again. I'll also get a few photos up.

I would say if you are not "mechanically inclined" do not try it at home. My buddy is an ex-Chrysler mechanic and I am a Mechanical Engineer and he and I have been working on Jeeps and cars for more than half of our 30-yr lives. Also, Air tools & WD-40 were very necessary to get a lot of the bolts off. If you don't have them it will take twice as long.

Suggestion, if you do plan to install the lift, consider switching to the BWoody Sway bar links while you are at it. You have to remove one , if not both of their bolts them anyway, may as well do it all at once. When my lift is on I am going to go talk with BWoody to see if they wanna make longer Sway Bars for lifted Jeeps. If you don't know BWoody, check his website out. He makes a Short Ram Air Intake for the 2011 WK2s - mine is the HEMI prototype.

Thanks for all this info. - very helpful. Much more than I should try and tackle! Best of luck with the rest of your install. I'd love to see pics when you have some.

[FIBERshock]

Mines gonna be here at the end of the week, should have her on by the end of the weekend if all goes well.....pics will follow for sure........also installing the bwoody sway bar links.....

[mchassler]

Two quick pics...

[cherrybomb05]

^ Looks Nice!!! What are you doing to your tailights? Blacking them out?



OP, I noticed you're from Nebraska, Glad to see someone else on here from Nebraska!

[cherrybomb05]

^ Looks Nice!!! What are you doing to your tailights? Blacking them out?



OP, I noticed you're from Nebraska, Glad to see someone else on here from Nebraska!

[MaineJeep11]

The lift looks great. Are you throwing some bigger tires on there? If so, what are you thinking?

[volvite]

Yea with a lift like that you need to get rid of the stock highway tires.

[mchassler]

Here, I don't want to post twice: http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f309/.../#post11673801

Originally Posted by MaineJeep11

The lift looks great. Are you throwing some bigger tires on there? If so, what are you thinking?

I will be. I didn't want to buy tires until I was sure what tires would fit. The Jeep on RROs website is running 275/55r20 and they say you may be able to go larger with fender trimming - I don't believe it. I think I can get at least a 275/60r20 (32.99" x 10.83") under there with no issue. I have a set of 20" OEMs waiting to go on whenever I select tires - hopefully in the next week or so.

Originally Posted by volvite

Yea with a lift like that you need to get rid of the stock highway tires.

Actually, in person, the stock tire size isn't so bad; works well. They just aren't the proper type of tire. Many guys lift their Jeeps and leave smaller tires on for more flex.

But, I agree and will be getting slightly taller tires. I just don't want to stuff a tire unnecessarily just to say I have a large tire - know what I mean?

Originally Posted by cherrybomb05

^ Looks Nice!!! What are you doing to your tailights? Blacking them out?

I sent them out to get tinted, they arrived last night so I'll get them on today. I originally had them smoke tinted by film (Rvinyl.com) that I did myself - looked dingy, dull and wasn't perfect. The painted tint looks amazing.