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post #1 of 158 Old 07-09-2012, 09:49 AM Thread Starter
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Jeep Grand Cherokee lethal in evasive maneuver

Tekniks Värld is a Swedish motor magazine. They almost rolled a Grand Cherokee in a low speed evasive test:

http://www.teknikensvarld.se/jeepmoosetest/

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post #2 of 158 Old 07-09-2012, 10:11 AM
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Not sure of test parameters but, according to this blurb, the feds gave it a 3 out of 5 star rating for rollover.

http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com...erokee/Safety/

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Statement from Chrysler Group:

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Chrysler Group engineers are investigating a Swedish magazine’s evaluation of the 2012 Grand Cherokee. During the evaluation, the publication was able to capture images of a Grand Cherokee on two wheels as it performed an extreme maneuver in an overloaded condition.

Advised of this event by the magazine, Chrysler Group engineers made numerous attempts to reproduce the wheel-lift in a properly loaded vehicle. Extensive testing produced no such result.

A subsequent evaluation was conducted by the magazine July 8 in Sweden and witnessed by Chrysler Group engineers. Three vehicles performed 11 runs on a course prepared by the magazine. None reproduced the original event.

The uncharacteristic result was obtained using a vehicle loaded beyond its weight specifications. The Grand Cherokee’s weight limitations are clearly stated on the vehicle and in the owner’s manual.

Also, the extreme maneuver performed by the magazine is not certified by any regulatory agency, nor is it used to establish any sanctioned safety ratings.

Chrysler Group takes seriously any safety concerns and engineers are examining the event to better understand the magazine’s claims.

A “Top Safety Pick” of the U.S. Insurance Institute for Highway Safety, the 2012 Grand Cherokee is an award-winning SUV that features Electronic Stability Control and Electronic Roll Mitigation as standard equipment. It meets or exceeds all government safety mandates and its outstanding performance has made it the most awarded SUV in history.
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Not sure of test parameters but, according to this blurb, the feds gave it a 3 out of 5 star rating for rollover.

http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com...erokee/Safety/
The 2WD versions get 3 stars from NHTSA for a "20.7% risk of rollover", the 4WD versions get 4 stars (which is on par with most midsize SUVs, of which I don't know any that get 5 stars) for a "16.7% risk of rollover", presumably due to the lower COG from the 4WD system.
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post #5 of 158 Old 07-09-2012, 10:26 AM
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I knew they were full of it when I noticed none of them wearing PPE. Stupid.
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post #6 of 158 Old 07-09-2012, 10:34 AM
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Zero credibility what so ever, irresponsible reporting and incredibly misleading.

No where in the article do they mention they overloaded it beyond the manufacturer's weight limt, nor do they mention this test is not used to determine safety ratings and it is not even a real test. The fact that it could not be replicated speaks volumes about how the test was carried out.

Basically if you are barely literate, which I assume most of the people buying a $35-50k SUV are, then you should be able to read the weight limits and act in a reasonable manner when you load it.
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you can roll anything if you try hard enough.........

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I think you'd really have to be trying to roll any Jeep. I've taken some corners surprisingly quickly in a ZJ and in a Liberty, neither want to flip.
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I had the "opportunity" to do an evasive maneuver followed by some 60MPH median-strip offroading in my WK on my way home from Carlisle, and I have to say I was quite impressed with the rig's handling. When I saw the event unfold in front of me I knew I had to head for the median, but I was pretty sure that swerving in time to miss the idiot that was spinning (or then straightening out on the slightly-banked median) was gonna roll the WK.. But no other choice.

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if you turn that hard and then over correct like that guy did you could roll anything going that fast. when it comes down to it if you drive stupid you get stupid results
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if you turn that hard and then over correct like that guy did you could roll anything going that fast. when it comes down to it if you drive stupid you get stupid results
Agree!!! years back they did a similar test of a 3 series BMW. Turned hard one direction turned harder the other..... rolled the 3 series right over.
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Gee, I bet the Volvo was the only one that passed the test

You hit the nail on the head ivester !

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lol if they think that thing isn't safe they should ride down the highway with me in the tj. the whole first week I had it 65 mph was scary as hell

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Not sure if any of you are old enough to remember the NBC Dateline rigged "test" of GM's pickup trucks with side-saddle gas tanks, but they couldn't get the fuel tanks to explode following repeated impacts. So, to make the story fit their beliefs, they overfilled the fuel tank, left the gas cap loose, and added model rocket igniters to manually ignite fuel upon the "test" impact at the right time. Yeah, they got some flames, but no explosion and the flames quickly went out on their own. If I overloaded an M1 tank and did some wild maneuvers at freeway speeds I bet I could get it to roll too. All media has become so full of biased, lying s--t that it isn't worth watching anymore. Pathetic.
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Tekniks Värld is a Swedish motor magazine. They almost rolled a Grand Cherokee in a low speed evasive test:

http://www.teknikensvarld.se/jeepmoosetest/

-J

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Y U no turn ESP on? D*mb f*cks.

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