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Unread 02-13-2015, 09:54 AM   #1
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Grand Cherokee Limited versus Overland 2015

Hi,

[I also posted this on the Jeep Buying Forum.]

I have owned a 1994 Jeep Grand Cherokee and 2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee. I am now looking for a new car to replace the 2001 and am leaning towards another Grand Cherokee (only reason not to would be fuel efficiency).

I was looking at the Overland (since it has most of the packages I want as standard features) but am concerned about the Quadra Lift in terms of maintenance and repair cost. I do not plan to do any off-roading. Would it be foolish to get an Overland and be stuck with large repair costs down the road? Would it be more cost-effective to just get a Limited with all the options I want? The cost ends up being around the same (w/ fewer options on the Limited).

These are the options I'm looking at:

Advanced Technology Group
Luxury Group II (required due to Adv Tech Group)
Tow package
UConnect 8.4/Nav/etc.
20" wheels - maybe?

Any advice would be much appreciated, including other reasons to go one way vs the other.

Thanks!

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Unread 02-13-2015, 10:10 AM   #2
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I was in the same boat. Wound up getting the '15 Overland with Adv Tech Group, and having dealer put the Mopar skid plates on (cost about $1,000 parts and labor). Before buying, I thought QL was gimmicky. Was I wrong! I love QL and the Overland. I use the QL a lot, even on the road. It has come in very handy with all the snow in the NE. For you in Chicago, that's important also. You won't bottom out on plowed snow as easily, and you can raise the car to help it. And you can lower the car for easy entry/exit/loading/unloading.

Adv Tech is awesome, too. My vote would be go with Overland. FWIW, '15 Limited does NOT have dual exhaust; '15 Overland does. Also, something I thought was a waste that I love in the Overland: heated steering wheel!

Another way to look at it: for a little more than cost of the Ltd with all the extras mentioned, the Overland gives you all that plus QL. Adding the skid plates gives you everything in the ORAII package, except the 18" wheels. I'm no expert off-roader, but my limited experience (not the Ltd car) and what I've heard/read, 20" wheels will do for just about anything 18" wheels will do for, except rock crawling. (the tow pkg is std on Overland).
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Unread 02-13-2015, 10:27 AM   #3
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I looked at a 2014 loaded Limited and bought a 2015 Overland for about $2000 less than the Limited.
The big option on the limited was the entertainment center which I didn't need (no one rides for far in my backseat).
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Unread 02-13-2015, 10:43 AM   #4
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I felt the same way too. Haven't had any troubles with the QL on mine either. If you do mostly highway driving the 'Areo' mode is nice and the 'Park' mode is really nice when my older inlaws are getting in and out of the vehicle. Seems to be good for on road and off road situations. If you are buying an Overland and it's not a 4X4 I don't think you would have the QL anyway.
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Those with QL anxiety purchase a Chrysler max care lifetime warranty for something like $2500 up front. Its not only QL but many of the other $$$ to repair tech items.
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Unread 02-14-2015, 09:29 PM   #6
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Thanks for all the replies!

Perhaps the best approach is to get the Overland with the extended warranty -- as mentioned.

Now the hard part -- negotiating a price that makes me feel like I'm not being taken for!

Thanks!
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Unread 02-14-2015, 10:31 PM   #7
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Well, I looked at the Overland, but what I wanted was the extended roof window (sorry, mind is blank on real name ) - wanted the V8 and many of the lux items, plus wanted it in Black or the Metallic Steel - ended up with black

Added the tow hitch a month after purchase

Imagine I would have liked the QL but did not get it with this vehicle.
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Unread 02-15-2015, 03:12 AM   #8
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I have the Overland and use/ like the QL .

I use it daily when I park it in the garage to lower the Jeep so the rear hatch door clears our " hurricane reinforced " garage door . My wife ( 5'3") loves the entry: exit height also. And if you service your Jeep you will appreciate the different height adjustments . As far as reliability .... I figure if it makes 36 months with no infant mortality failures , it's good to go the 5 years I need . No extended warranty here....

And in some colors , the Overland just looks better with the painted wheel surrounds . Mine is red , and it looks incredible in the bright Florida sun!
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Unread 02-15-2015, 08:25 AM   #9
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I have the Limited Ecodiesel with the Advanced Technology Group
Luxury Group II (required due to Adv Tech Group)
Tow package
UConnect 8.4/Nav/etc.
Trail Rated
and now have 15,000 miles on it.
I have been off road with it in Dragoon Mts SE AZ, Moab, and Quartzite. The Quadra Lift has been flawless and is really great, especially off road on rocky trails.
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Unread 02-15-2015, 08:42 AM   #10
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Those with QL anxiety purchase a Chrysler max care lifetime warranty for something like $2500 up front. Its not only QL but many of the other $$$ to repair tech items.
I was poking around on their website, and did not see any of the QL components mentioned under Suspension, or anywhere else. Do we know for sure that QL is covered? They do say "If it's mechanical it's covered". But without seeing it in the fine print I'm not comfortable that it is covered.
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Unread 02-15-2015, 09:28 AM   #11
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The basic policies list what is included, the max care lifetime policies list exclusions (those not covered). My dealer said QL was covered. As far as I know nothing changed, but you may want to check the contract or ask the dealer for current policies.
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I was in the same boat. Wound up getting the '15 Overland with Adv Tech Group, and having dealer put the Mopar skid plates on (cost about $1,000 parts and labor). Before buying, I thought QL was gimmicky. Was I wrong! I love QL and the Overland. I use the QL a lot, even on the road. It has come in very handy with all the snow in the NE. For you in Chicago, that's important also. You won't bottom out on plowed snow as easily, and you can raise the car to help it. And you can lower the car for easy entry/exit/loading/unloading.

Adv Tech is awesome, too. My vote would be go with Overland. FWIW, '15 Limited does NOT have dual exhaust; '15 Overland does. Also, something I thought was a waste that I love in the Overland: heated steering wheel!

Another way to look at it: for a little more than cost of the Ltd with all the extras mentioned, the Overland gives you all that plus QL. Adding the skid plates gives you everything in the ORAII package, except the 18" wheels. I'm no expert off-roader, but my limited experience (not the Ltd car) and what I've heard/read, 20" wheels will do for just about anything 18" wheels will do for, except rock crawling. (the tow pkg is std on Overland).
I believe that's only the v6 model. I believe the 5.7 Hemi option does come with dual exhaust.
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Unread 02-15-2015, 11:18 AM   #13
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I currently own a 2009 Rocky Mountain edition which I have upgraded myself with leather, wood/leather steering wheel, wood appliques, and a Kenwood touchscreen stereo and Navi. May be looking to trade in and I am potentially in the same boat - Limited loaded vs. Overland. I would get a 4x4 with 5.7 Hemi in either case. Not going to do much off-roading but want the 4x4 for wet traction and those few times we get ice and/or snow in the winter down here and for occasional towing. I would get the Luxury Group II and the 20" wheels with the Limited and tow package in either case.
- Does the Lux Group II come with Navi? On the website it says something like, Nav-ready.
- I'm not real crazy about the open pore wood in the Overland.
- What are the determining criteria for whether you get the copper colored trim or the silver colored trim?

Biggest thing, I have read SO much negative press on the WK2 quality problems especially with the 2014 model year; tranny problems, electrical, clunking noises, etc. Does anyone have any feel for whether the 2015s are any better? Have they legitimately fixed these issues? My '09 runs great and is very reliable. The new ones are beautiful but I don't want to buy a pretty problem.
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Unread 02-15-2015, 11:49 AM   #14
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We have three 2014/2015 GC s in the neighborhood .... One limited , two Overlands . All 4x4s with the V6.

Trade ins were 2006 MDX, 2009 Denali, 2002 Jeep GC.......

Total issues...... None. Love them.

Buy one if you like it..... Frankly Get tired of all the
Jeep unreliable stuff..... On number 5 and they have all been better then all the so called super reliable stuff I have also owned ( Honda, BMW, Ford, Chevy, Mazda) .

Never have owned a Toyota..... Just never could get past the ugly, boring factors with them.

My June , 2013 build Overland is at 14,000 and has averaged 21 MPGs as of today.... Leaving on another road trip tomorrow .... Beautiful ride.
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Unread 02-15-2015, 12:14 PM   #15
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The nav/HD radio from the factory is an ~700 option on top of the Lux package. Dealer can add nav but not HD radio to the Lux group radio, ~$500 if I recall correctly.

http://www.wk2jeeps.com/wk2_2015_pricing.htm has a pretty good breakout of whats in each of the packages.

So list the options that are must haves and don't wants and price out each (Limited with options or Overland) to see which provides the best value. In 2011 the Overland was a better value for me, but that changes year to year and is very dependent on your must have, nice to have, and don't want list.
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