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Unread 07-21-2014, 12:52 PM   #1
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Fuel with ethanol in it.

Took a pretty hefty road trip. 3500 miles+

It still amazes me how fuel with no ethanol yields such great results. Every tank with it yielded a greater than 10% boost in fuel economy.

In conclusion I'm still mind boggled how this is supplementing our demand on foreign oil.

Possibly the impact isn't as great if you drive a Honda?

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Unread 07-21-2014, 01:12 PM   #2
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Ethanol free is 8 cents more a gallon here but well worth it.
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Unread 07-21-2014, 02:24 PM   #3
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Well, ethanol has been responsible for two dead string trimmers (it costs the same to rebuild the carb as it does buy a new trimmer), one push lawnmower, and a good $1500 worth of premature repairs on my boat. So maybe 2-3k since 2006 when it came here.

They don't sell non-ethanol gas anywhere in New England that I'm aware unless I wanted to go with av gas, but that's leaded and would screw up other things.

Is there a gas station in these woods selling non ethanol gas? Let me know please if there is. I'd pay the 8c premium......
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Unread 07-21-2014, 02:36 PM   #4
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Any where is New England or do you have a specific location?

I have used ethanol in my boat with no issues, you have to be proactive with equipment when using it.
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Unread 07-21-2014, 03:10 PM   #5
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They don't sell non-ethanol gas anywhere in New England that I'm aware unless I wanted to go with av gas, but that's leaded and would screw up other things.

Is there a gas station in these woods selling non ethanol gas? Let me know please if there is. I'd pay the 8c premium......
Lots of places around you, see the link for a map, but most of it is high octane stuff. Unfortunately I'd have to travel out of my state to find any. Does a real number on my old cars if I'm not careful.

http://pure-gas.org/extensions/map.html
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Unread 07-21-2014, 03:12 PM   #6
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Yeah I forgot to put stabilizer in the boat tank end of year and had all sorts of issues the next year (2011).

I'm in Mass points east of Worcester, sometimes in RI (Warwick/Quonset) and frequently in southern NH north up to Concord for work.
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Unread 07-21-2014, 03:18 PM   #7
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You know what I find funny about that Pure-gas map? I live in Old Bridge, NJ... there are NONE in my state, nor anywhere near me. HA! I have to go to Philadelphia at best.
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Unread 07-21-2014, 05:24 PM   #8
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Well, ethanol has been responsible for two dead string trimmers (it costs the same to rebuild the carb as it does buy a new trimmer), one push lawnmower, and a good $1500 worth of premature repairs on my boat. So maybe 2-3k since 2006 when it came here.

They don't sell non-ethanol gas anywhere in New England that I'm aware unless I wanted to go with av gas, but that's leaded and would screw up other things.

Is there a gas station in these woods selling non ethanol gas? Let me know please if there is. I'd pay the 8c premium......
if you read the instructions for the small gas engine lawn stuff you can not use ethanol gas,and common sense should kick in for boats since ethanol attracts water.You should never store ethanol blended gas in anything for more then 1-2 months tops.Again common sense should have kicked in.


I'm into 1/5 scale RC which uses a similar but highly modified "weed eater" style 2 stroke engine and everyone says just use regular gas,sorry but nope and the only non-ethanol gas to be had within 100 miles of me is 110 octane leaded VP race gas so that is what get's used in my 1/5 scale.Not going to mess up a 15hp $1700 57cc twin cylinder engine,lead is fine as it actually helps but ethanol will trash the engine and carbs.
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Unread 07-21-2014, 05:54 PM   #9
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I wish they would allow us to buy non ethanol gas here I am on long island and nothing on that map
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Check your local gas distributors. They usually have a pure gas pump or can tell you who they deliver pure gas to.
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Unread 07-21-2014, 06:45 PM   #11
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It used to be that the only gas out here with ethanol was 89 octane with 10% ethanol. 91 octane and 87 had none. Now we have a large mixture, depending on the station. A few still have 87 and 91 ethanol free, but many have gone completely ethanol blended.
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[QUOTE="tjkj2002"] if you read the instructions for the small gas engine lawn stuff you can not use ethanol gas,and common sense should kick in for boats since ethanol attracts water.You should never store ethanol blended gas in anything for more then 1-2 months tops.Again common sense should have kicked in.

Ummmm. Yeah. Useful post. Not.

10% ethanol replaced MTBE in gas in MA/NH in April through May 2006 in virtually all (more than 99%) of gas stations. How do I know? I remediate groundwater for a living in those two states (geologists drive Jeeps, it's just the way it is). MTBE release markers in groundwater replaced by what we call "benzene creep" because the microbes in the ground prefer (electron receptor) ethanol over benzene. Per that map link that an actually helpful person provided, the nearest ethanol free supplier is a solid hour one way drive. Which is better than none. Still wish it was closer.

So yeah, I'm guilty of lacking the "common sense" to drive two hours out of my way every time I fill my boat or the John Deere or my Husqvarna string trimmer. I guess me and the rest of the couple hundred thousand people around here I see filling their boats and tractors and 5 gallon cans for their yard equipment.
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It used to be that the only gas out here with ethanol was 89 octane with 10% ethanol. 91 octane and 87 had none. Now we have a large mixture, depending on the station. A few still have 87 and 91 ethanol free, but many have gone completely ethanol blended.
Don't you love that? Last time I was home(Mitchell) there was like 6 nozzles at one pump going from E10 to E85 in different mixtures.
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It used to be that the only gas out here with ethanol was 89 octane with 10% ethanol. 91 octane and 87 had none. Now we have a large mixture, depending on the station. A few still have 87 and 91 ethanol free, but many have gone completely ethanol blended.
SD was one of the place I was. 85 octane everywhere. I went to one station on the interstate that had e85, e20, e30, and 85 and 93 octane.

WTF?

Also several stations advertising price and then only having 1 or 2 pumps with 85 and then 87 would be 40 cents plus more.
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Back when I had a Hemi, it was always fun finding 89 without ethanol. 89 was recommend, but not with the ethanol added. At least with the v6, it can handle the ethanol okay, just hurt the mileage a little.
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