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Unread 02-11-2014, 06:31 PM   #1
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DRL Question - is off really off?

I'm considering purchasing a GC Overland. The Jeep website shows that the DRLs can be turned off but web picture makes it look like they're just on a very low setting. If you set the DRLs to off are they really off or just on a lowered setting? Do they stay off when you restart?

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Unread 02-11-2014, 06:37 PM   #2
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There IS a selection to turn them OFF, and they stay off.
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Unread 02-11-2014, 07:01 PM   #3
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Thanks - that's what I was hoping.
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Unread 02-12-2014, 05:28 PM   #4
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I'm considering purchasing a GC Overland. The Jeep website shows that the DRLs can be turned off but web picture makes it look like they're just on a very low setting. If you set the DRLs to off are they really off or just on a lowered setting? Do they stay off when you restart?
I hope you are looking at a 2014 because on the 11-13's, you would have to remove 2 relays to turn them off.
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Unread 02-12-2014, 10:15 PM   #5
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Yes on the 2014.
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But the minute you turn your parking lights on they come on. I like driving with the fogs on with no headlights but is not possible
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Unread 02-15-2014, 02:48 PM   #7
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DRLs can be turned off without removing anything going all the way back to 99 model year. You need a factory scan tool to do it.
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Unread 02-15-2014, 06:58 PM   #8
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DRLs can be turned off without removing anything going all the way back to 99 model year. You need a factory scan tool to do it.
While that may be true, most dealers will say if the vehicle came standard with DRL's, its against the law to turn the DRL's off. I've actually heard that line twice. The other ones won't have a clue that they can be turned off.

A few years back I had a 2007 Lexus GX470 which of course came standard with DRL's. Before I took delivery, I asked the service dept. to turn off the DRL's. I go to take delivery of the vehicle and of course the DRL's turn on. I ask the service manager what happened and he says they hooked it up to their scanner and they can't be turned off. About a month later I was looking through the official service manual put out by Lexus and sure enough, in there I found the procedure to disable the DRL's. It did require the dealers scan tool to do it. I then met with the service manager and asked him to look up the chapter, page and article # in the service manual on how to disable the DRL's. After he read it, I could see he was embarrassed and he immediately had the tech do the procedure. Took all of 10 minutes to do. I bet they didn't even bother to try but if I was paying them their normal service hour rate of $175, then they would find it.
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I don't like the idea of being at the mercy of dealers. I buy my own factory scan tools for what I drive.


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While that may be true, most dealers will say if the vehicle came standard with DRL's, its against the law to turn the DRL's off. I've actually heard that line twice. The other ones won't have a clue that they can be turned off.

A few years back I had a 2007 Lexus GX470 which of course came standard with DRL's. Before I took delivery, I asked the service dept. to turn off the DRL's. I go to take delivery of the vehicle and of course the DRL's turn on. I ask the service manager what happened and he says they hooked it up to their scanner and they can't be turned off. About a month later I was looking through the official service manual put out by Lexus and sure enough, in there I found the procedure to disable the DRL's. It did require the dealers scan tool to do it. I then met with the service manager and asked him to look up the chapter, page and article # in the service manual on how to disable the DRL's. After he read it, I could see he was embarrassed and he immediately had the tech do the procedure. Took all of 10 minutes to do. I bet they didn't even bother to try but if I was paying them their normal service hour rate of $175, then they would find it.
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I don't like the idea of being at the mercy of dealers. I buy my own factory scan tools for what I drive.
I bet the scan tool (wiTech) the dealer has costs a small fortune. I doubt you buy the exact same thing. Certainly not a scanner you can pick up at Autozone or Pepboys.
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Unread 02-17-2014, 06:03 PM   #11
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The WiTech/Starmobile is $4k and the DRB3 is $6K. Below are pictures of mine. You wont buy then at Autozone or Pepboys, you can get them at www.aetools.us

Buying your own factory scan tools might cost a small fortune, but not needing the dealer is priceless.















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I bet the scan tool (wiTech) the dealer has costs a small fortune. I doubt you buy the exact same thing. Certainly not a scanner you can pick up at Autozone or Pepboys.
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DRLs can be turned off without removing anything going all the way back to 99 model year. You need a factory scan tool to do it.
The WK2s are different. Someone posted the service manual procedure here awhile ago. It involves removing two relays and ignoring a fault code. Chrysler says to ignore the TIPM fault code if the vehicle has an export VIN and the owner disabled the DRLs. Some countries mandate that DRLs can be disabled by the owner without use of tools... or something like that.
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Unread 02-17-2014, 06:26 PM   #13
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The DRL's in a WK2 can be turned off by changing the country code in the "Central Gateway". If your WK2 is for a DRL market such as Canada you would change the country code from Canada to USA. Then in the witech software under "Misc Functions" select enable/disable DRL. Otherwise it will say "This vehicle is not certified to have the DRL feature disabled".

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The WK2s are different. Someone posted the dealer procedure here awhile ago. Chrysler says don't disable unless the vehicle has an export VIN. Some countries mandate that DRLs can be disabled by the owner without special tools/equipment... or something like that.
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The WiTech/Starmobile is $4k and the DRB3 is $6K. Below are pictures of mine. You wont buy then at Autozone or Pepboys, you can get them at www.aetools.us

Buying your own factory scan tools might cost a small fortune, but not needing the dealer is priceless.
Don't you need to buy a license for access to the Chrysler software and tech system to effectively not need a dealer?
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The DRL's in a WK2 can be turned off by changing the country code in the "Central Gateway". If your WK2 is for a DRL market such as Canada you would change the country code from Canada to USA. Then in the witech software under "Misc Functions" select enable/disable DRL. Otherwise it will say "This vehicle is not certified to have the DRL feature disabled".
Is that the MY 2014 software? The MY2011 does not seem to have have that function. The service manual says to remove the relays and ignore the fault.... and we all know the service manual is always right
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