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Unread 06-08-2014, 01:18 PM   #31
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2.) damned diesel fuel is sooooo much higher than gas in New England most of the time since the oil companies like to screw us all during heating season. Still 40c more per gallon at the station up the street for diesel over gas today. I understand this is elsewhere.

Diesel taxes vary state to state. In Louisiana it's ~.45$/gallon. They started taxing diesel heavily years ago to "pay" for the extra damage that tractor trailers did to our highways. If you've ever driven in Louisiana you'd know that they don't bother to fix damage done to Our highways.

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Unread 06-08-2014, 06:12 PM   #32
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Thanks, ColdCase. I have the ecodiesel in my Ram and I'm quite pleased with it. I was just disputing 10Xk's statement concerning the diesel (although he couldn't provide any facts to backup his statement). " Originally Posted by 10Xk View Post Hemi is tried and true. Diesel, well they have issues. Seems like a lot of issues to the point they're stuck at dealerships so you will get really good MPG in rentals."
I stated the fact. If you read random threads throughout the forum you will see issues.

They mostly seem to revolve around fuel system and DEF.

As for the concrete reliability data, there is none. It's too new.
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Unread 06-08-2014, 06:27 PM   #33
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I stated the fact. If you read random threads throughout the forum you will see issues.

They mostly seem to revolve around fuel system and DEF.

As for the concrete reliability data, there is none. It's too new.
So if I read a few random threads on an internet forum about somebody's problem with a hemi engine, is it a fact that all hemi engines have problems?

Useless and pointless knowledge as far as I'm concerned.
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Unread 06-08-2014, 06:29 PM   #34
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Good advice.
Agree 100%
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Unread 06-08-2014, 07:40 PM   #35
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So if I read a few random threads on an internet forum about somebody's problem with a hemi engine, is it a fact that all hemi engines have problems?

Useless and pointless knowledge as far as I'm concerned.
To be fair if someone posts about problems with their diesel it isn't pointless.

I was one of the lucky ones to have a transmission failure within 200 miles of purchase of my V6 Overland. Does my data point not count according to you when we speak of the reliability of the new 8-sp auto?
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Unread 06-08-2014, 09:01 PM   #36
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Your v6 has a totally different trans than the hemi or ecodiesel. This is why most if the trans problems are related to the v6


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Unread 06-08-2014, 09:04 PM   #37
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Your v6 has a totally different trans than the hemi or ecodiesel. This is why most if the trans problems are related to the v6
Not totally different, same transmission but with some differences in specs and a few parts. The V6 does seem to be more trouble than the others... although only a few have reported problems.
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Unread 06-08-2014, 10:25 PM   #38
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I was under the impression that the v6 trans was a 845rfe and the other is zf8 or something like that. One made by Chrysler and the other made by ZF.


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Unread 06-09-2014, 11:31 AM   #39
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Both are ZF designed transmissions - the V6 8 speed is a ZF design manufactured by Chrysler with some different parts than the one for the V8. The V8 transmission is a ZF designed transmission built by ZF in Germany.
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Unread 06-09-2014, 12:07 PM   #40
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You guys sound like a bunch of high school girls with your uninformed rants, mine is better then yours, wha, wha, wha, holly crap people. Who the He#% cares, get over your selves. Both are good capable motors, want a diesel buy that want a HEMI get that. It's like me saying oh ya well my Dmax is better than then the ECO and my dad can beat up your dad..
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Unread 06-09-2014, 01:36 PM   #41
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You guys sound like a bunch of high school girls with your uninformed rants, mine is better then yours, wha, wha, wha, holly crap people. Who the He#% cares, get over your selves. Both are good capable motors, want a diesel buy that want a HEMI get that. It's like me saying oh ya well my Dmax is better than then the ECO and my dad can beat up your dad..
Perhaps to you, there have been a couple childish posts, but not like you see on some of the other forums. Most members here are just exchanging information.
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Unread 06-09-2014, 04:13 PM   #42
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To be fair if someone posts about problems with their diesel it isn't pointless.

I was one of the lucky ones to have a transmission failure within 200 miles of purchase of my V6 Overland. Does my data point not count according to you when we speak of the reliability of the new 8-sp auto?
Sorry you misunderstood my comment. Perhaps I wasn't clear. It was the following statement I considered pointless.

"Diesel, well they have issues. Seems like a lot of issues to the point they're stuck at dealerships so you will get really good MPG in rentals."

In all fairness, I did show a smiley face.
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Unread 06-10-2014, 02:33 PM   #43
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Here's a good read

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f309/...eport-2040817/
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Unread 06-10-2014, 02:41 PM   #44
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That's one big improvement over our 2008 CRD that pulled 2,000 RPM at 55 MPH. The ecodiesel is at 2,000 RPM around 75 MPH which is as fast as I've driven it so far.

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I have not driven a hemi powered jeep but I have a diesel and it is so quiet at 75 all you hear is the wind and even that us pretty quiet. It also gets close to 30mpg at 75mph.


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Unread 06-10-2014, 08:52 PM   #45
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Your v6 has a totally different trans than the hemi or ecodiesel. This is why most if the trans problems are related to the v6


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I was simply comparing my tranny issue with the diesel issue to illustrate a point. I know very well why the V6 tranny has more issues than the diesel/V8's version and wish I could get the ZF made unit for my car.
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