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Unread 04-21-2015, 11:18 AM   #1
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Chrysler Pentastar V-6s to get turbos and direct injection, sources say

http://www.autonews.com/article/2014...ection-sources

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Chrysler+Pentas...2C+sources+say

So will a turbo 3.6 be an option for the 2016 GC?

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Unread 04-21-2015, 11:43 AM   #2
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Looks like they are going the way of Ford and the eco-boost line.
Lots of horses from smaller displacement means the power comes screaming at higher RPMs. I prefer my Hemi where lower RPMs gives similar, yet less noisy power.
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Unread 04-21-2015, 11:50 AM   #3
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Those articles are from 2014!!!
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Unread 04-21-2015, 02:27 PM   #4
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They are developing a turbo 4 cylinder, and twin turbo 6 cylinder.
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Looks like they are going the way of Ford and the eco-boost line.
Lots of horses from smaller displacement means the power comes screaming at higher RPMs. I prefer my Hemi where lower RPMs gives similar, yet less noisy power.
Torque hits far lower, 'power' comes from far lower RPM.
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I don't think the grand cherokee will get the ttv6 next year.

I think the di 3.6 has been basically confirmed for next yeae though.
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What does direct injection get you?
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What does direct injection get you?
Usually about 5% gains in hp and mpg.
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Unread 04-21-2015, 06:28 PM   #9
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Pentastar V6 turbo would be great and I'd be one to seriously think about replacing my 14 G.C. when/if it comes to be true. My guess is they probably will in order to offer something to compete with Ford's eco boost v6.
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In FCAs 5 year plan, the next-gen JGC(2017 on sale late 2016) will be the first to receive the new 3.0tt Pentastar. Many details remain scarce, but I find it ironic that this is also when the new Maserati 3.0T goes into production as well.

Most sources indicate to expect well over 400hp. What is not readily available is whether or not the Hemi will be replaced(could go the Ford route and keep it around to please must have V8 buyers). I do know the 3.6 is due to receive new internals as well as DI for improved power and efficiency. Probably look for updates to the E.D. with more power and efficiency gains. Another biggie: What will become of the SRT? It is still the number one selling SRT product. But FCA has indicated Dodge to have SRT all to itself. ZF is close to releasing the faster, more efficient 8HP. The good news is that the next gen JGC is supposed to be far lighter and stronger, with high-tensile steel and use of aluminum for weight reductions.
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They could change the JGC SRT name to the new TrackHawk name and offer it with the 6.4 and/or the 6.2 Hellcat engine.
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They could change the JGC SRT name to the new TrackHawk name and offer it with the 6.4 and/or the 6.2 Hellcat engine.
True. Jeep did trademark that name specifically for JGC. Can you imagine a Hellcat V8, and a stout enough AWD system to handle the 650lb-ft of torque? Cayenne Turbo S...who?

If Jeep is able(and Im sure they are) to develop an AWD system that can handle that power, the JGC could end up being faster in the 1320 than the LXs, albeit much lower top speed.
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True. Jeep did trademark that name specifically for JGC. Can you imagine a Hellcat V8, and a stout enough AWD system to handle the 650lb-ft of torque? Cayenne Turbo S...who?

If Jeep is able(and Im sure they are) to develop an AWD system that can handle that power, the JGC could end up being faster in the 1320 than the LXs, albeit much lower top speed.
I think the articles have indicated that a Hellcat JGC would be 2WD only. They all ready have the drive train for that.
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What does direct injection get you?
Usually about 5% gains in hp and mpg.
Unfortunately in a lot of cases it also gets you carbon deposits on the intake valves.

Right now I'm thinking I'd like to avoid any new Direct Injection motors for a while (unless they have a specific strategy to avoid/deal with deposits or a proven track record that they don't suffer them).
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Unfortunately in a lot of cases it also gets you carbon deposits on the intake valves.

Right now I'm thinking I'd like to avoid any new Direct Injection motors for a while (unless they have a specific strategy to avoid/deal with deposits or a proven track record that they don't suffer them).
D.I. is hit and miss. Ford's 4cyl Ecoboosts are plagued with carbon build up, although they won't admit. We've had 4 Fusion 1.6L Ecoboosts company cars at the dealer for carbon-related issues.

GM has had some success with their later model 3.6L V6s and 2.0Ts. I believe 2011 and later engines are better at fuel burning than first gens.

Hopefully FCA will employ the latest technology in direct injection. I believe that is why they are so "late" to the game. However, the 3.6 employed now is very competitive in power and efficiency.
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