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picard12 05-01-2013 12:47 PM

can the GC be programmed to increase torque ?
 
can the GC be programmed to increase torque ?

does the dealer have to do it ?

Can it be done by another skilled mechanic?

ColdCase 05-01-2013 01:12 PM

There is nothing the dealer can do. A diablo tuner is available for the V8 that the DIYer or skilled technician can make some adjustments. Do a search for diablo and you should find some extensive discussions.

dizz1979 05-02-2013 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdCase (Post 15374553)
There is nothing the dealer can do. A diablo tuner is available for the V8 that the DIYer or skilled technician can make some adjustments. Do a search for diablo and you should find some extensive discussions.

And search hemifever.com.

picard12 05-02-2013 12:28 PM

why can't diablo be use on a V6? I saw it made for V8 hemi.

ColdCase 05-02-2013 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by picard12 (Post 15379254)
why can't diablo be use on a V6? I saw it made for V8 hemi.

You may want to ask Diablo.

Its not the same software or firmware. It takes some capital investment to reverse engineer the OEM and the encryption and flash and boot loaders can be a tough nut to crack. Each model line has something different to contend with. Then there is sufficient testing. In spite of testing, Diablo's first effort was full of bugs and problems that now seem to be have cleared up.

I think there is just no business case given the capital investment involved. The ROI is better on other motors.

I'm sure if it was easy, a V6 tuner would be available. I'm thinking 99% of WK2 V6 owners could care less about a tuner, especially that they void the warranty. 90% probably don't know what a tuner is. WK2 enthusiasts typically migrate to the hemi. Now wrangler's bigest motor is a V6 I think, and I hear there is some kind of tuner becoming available. The WK2 V6 is the same motor, but the software is different. It took Diablo like three years to release a WK2 Hemi tuner after they released one for the Hemi RAMs.

If you want more torque than the V6 provides, the easiest thing to do is get a V8 :)

picard12 05-02-2013 09:20 PM

V8 is too expensive and guzzle gas like the Titanic. there must be another way to tune the V6.

loveracing1988 05-03-2013 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by picard12 (Post 15381952)
V8 is too expensive and guzzle gas like the Titanic. there must be another way to tune the V6.

There is, if the v6 doesn't have enough power for you, you obviously are towing a lot or racing. If you want more power than what the v6 offers and don't want to pay more gas for the hemi, buy a different vehicle, plain and simple. Either way you go your not gong to get great mileage.

ColdCase 05-03-2013 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by picard12 (Post 15381952)
V8 is too expensive and guzzle gas like the Titanic. there must be another way to tune the V6.

Now that is an exaggeration.

Not sure where you formulated this opinion. Tune the V6 for more torque, you will may be going through and engine every year and it will likely drink more fuel than the V8. I get a sense you may not have a good understanding of how modern cars and trucks work and are just posting opinions based on emotion not backed up by any data or reality.

The WK2 is a truck and trucks use more fuel than cars and are more expensive. If you are unwilling to pay the price, stay with cars... perhaps a hybrid will more suit your needs. Engines that make power either drink more fuel or have a very high entry fee.

TitanFlyer 05-04-2013 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by picard12 (Post 15381952)
V8 is too expensive and guzzle gas like the Titanic. there must be another way to tune the V6.

Ugh... well, opinions. Anyway, I bought the V8 for the power and sound. I only drive about 2000 miles a year as I travel for business and work from home the other couple days. When we go out as a family its usually in the mini van honda truckster.

Anyway, back the V6 and tuning. I would think that engine is pretty wrung out already at almost 300 hp and no turbo. If you could get more out of it, you might be pushing it over the limit of what its safely capable of. The V8 is probably close too, but has a little more wiggle room. Its not like the V8 can do 450 HP with a tune, its very very small gains. Now, strap a SuperCharger to it or a Turbo (either engine to be honest) and as long as the internals hold up, you can make it shine.

jim_in_PA 05-05-2013 07:38 AM

The bottom line likely reason there isn't a tuner for the V6 is...limited or no demand. The majority of folks who have an interest in that kind of thing (and who are willing to pay for it) are performance buffs who live in the "big V8" world. Even for the Hemi V8, the audience is extremely limited.


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