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Unread 01-30-2014, 09:29 AM   #1
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Brake Traction Control Disable?

Has anyone found a way to disable the brake traction system? Perhaps an aftermarket computer programmer?

I have a 2011 Laredo with Offroad I package (hooks, skids, select terrain and QuadraTrac II TC). I am also running a 2.5" rocky road lift (I'll be glad to answer tire questions for running that lift) 3.6 V6 as well.

I have read up on the functions of the different select terrain systems and how they transfer power, how they apply traction control and the brake traction system.

I love driving my grand in the snow here in Michigan, but the brake traction system is really annoying when it kicks in. It also sounds and feels horrible and there are plenty of opportunities to lay the jeep out into a 4 wheel drift. My WJ is way more fun in the snow with open diffs in 4 hi.

Launching in 'Sport' mode seems to give the best starts, but hammer down into a corner and I can't stop the brake system from kicking in.
Also, I honestly don't know why anyone would ever use the 'snow' setting unless they were inexperienced, frightened or buzzed.

This system has gotten me out of a few tough situations offroad, but I would love a way to turn this thing on and off. Anyone got any advice?

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Unread 01-30-2014, 09:50 AM   #2
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Some have temporarily pulled one of the fuses to disable traction control, but that will give you all kinds of error messages and indicators. I don't recall if it also affects the ABS.
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Unread 01-30-2014, 10:22 AM   #3
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Deep Snow

You dont want ABS. You stop in a shorter distance w/o ABS.

I have wired up an ABS on/off switch in cars but they were all pre 2000.

I am not sure if the Diablo tuner turns off Traction Control in the WK2.

Days of controlled 4 wheel drifts are gone. A controlled 4 wheel drift was my preferred way to negotiate on/off ramps in the snow.
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Unread 01-30-2014, 10:44 AM   #4
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Read your owners manual, if you don't have one they are free at jeep.com

Some 4x4 systems use the abs to shift power when using a open diff to the tire with traction.

If I hold my ESP button down I completely disable traction control, read your owners manual.
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Unread 01-30-2014, 11:27 AM   #5
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The owners manual does not offer a way to disable the brake lock differential (BLD). It specifically states that the BLD remains active when the traction control is turned off.
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Unread 01-30-2014, 12:42 PM   #6
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You dont want ABS. You stop in a shorter distance w/o ABS.
I have come to believe you say stupid stuff like this just to stir things up. Now tell us how your superior driving skills provide you with abilities us mere mortals can only aspire to.

I am tired of you muddying up threads, and for the life of me I don't know why the moderators tolerate it.
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Unread 01-30-2014, 01:02 PM   #7
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The owners manual does not offer a way to disable the brake lock differential (BLD). It specifically states that the BLD remains active when the traction control is turned off.
Hummm..

Have you tired while in park or completely stopped holding down the ESC button for awhile. After a period of time it will ding and state ESC is off or something similar.
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Unread 01-30-2014, 02:09 PM   #8
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Might want to do you research

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I have come to believe you say stupid stuff like this just to stir things up. Now tell us how your superior driving skills provide you with abilities us mere mortals can only aspire to.

I am tired of you muddying up threads, and for the life of me I don't know why the moderators tolerate it.
In deep snow you stop quicker and in a shorter distance because the wheels lock which forms a wedge of snow. ABS you dont get this and as a result it takes you longer to stop. Simple explanation. R&T, C&D and others have all discussed. Thought everyone knew this. Mods tolerate me sonny boy because I am right every once in a while!
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I have come to believe you say stupid stuff like this just to stir things up. Now tell us how your superior driving skills provide you with abilities us mere mortals can only aspire to.

I am tired of you muddying up threads, and for the life of me I don't know why the moderators tolerate it.
I agree with your comment 110%. I do feel that he is a troll and likes to get a rise out of people. To the Moderators why do you allow this to continue as "CharcoalWeber" mentioned? He has flared so many good threads for no reason?
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Unread 01-30-2014, 02:42 PM   #10
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Alow me to share the PM he sent me, and my response:

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Son,

Before you go off on me you might want to do some research and read my complete post. i said deep snow and you stop quicker and in a shorter distance w/o ABS. Its a fact and has been out there for almost 30 years. Please do you research sonny boy and stop checking out porn!



Dave, most of the time its not the message you are trying to convey that is the issue, it is the way you communicate it. This forum is a way for people with common interests to get together to share knowledge and information, and posting in a derogatory manner only serves to tell people what type of person you are. It takes away from any merit in your comments. Even your PM (sonny boy, checking out porn) follows that pattern. Any consideration I might have given your response is gone because of the immature and ignorant way in which you express yourself. It is disruptive to the forum, and like I posted, I am shocked you haven't been banned. I have been active on a GM forum for many years, and if you come over and play there like you play here, I would ban you after your first post.

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Unread 01-30-2014, 03:29 PM   #11
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Mods tolerate me sonny boy because I am right every once in a while!
That may be but the way you convey your insight/input/knowledge is often times disrespectful and many here do not tolerate it well. You come off as arrogant and condescending. Having the knowledge is fine and educating people is even better but nobody will learn anything nor respond well to it if you treat them like dirt which you do whether or realize it or not.


The first rule is respect. If anybody cannot obey it, they will be banned...no matter how much they know about cars.

None of these guys are reporting your posts, Dave. They just want the attitude and disrespect adjusted for the times that it may get a little "hairy". That is all they ask.
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Unread 01-30-2014, 03:32 PM   #12
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Dave as been doing ok since his last vacation. Some of the others here can use an attitude adjustment... Or thicker skin, however... At least I think so.
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Unread 01-30-2014, 03:37 PM   #13
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Dave as been doing ok since his last vacation. Some of the others here can use an attitude adjustment... Or thicker skin, however... At least I think so.
I agree. Thicker skin, indeed. It was more of a reminder that respect is still something we want here from all. I haven't seen Dave really do anything wrong since he has been back...compared to before the vacation.

At the same time we aren't going to hold hands.
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Unread 01-30-2014, 04:52 PM   #14
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It is true if you actually learned how to drive and not got your license out of the bottom of a cracker jack box you can stop quicker on any surface without ABS then with it.ABS,ESP,and traction control are for lazy people,along with TPMS.

For the original ?....................

If a tuner will not turn it off the only way is to pull the ABS fuse and yes you will loose ABS and any function the ABS controls or use the ABS system to function.
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It is true if you actually learned how to drive and not got your license out of the bottom of a cracker jack box you can stop quicker on any surface without ABS then with it.ABS,ESP,and traction control are for lazy people,along with TPMS.

For the original ?....................

If a tuner will not turn it off the only way is to pull the ABS fuse and yes you will loose ABS and any function the ABS controls or use the ABS system to function.
Only true for the 2002 Liberty with you behind the wheel
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