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barry1me 02-14-2013 06:54 PM

6500 vs 6800GVW....what does this mean?
 
Ok so im a bit confused on the 6500 vs 6800GVW. What does this mean in the sense of how does it affect Payload, or Towing capacity? You can purchase a 2013 Laredo X hemi with a tow package and it will tow 7200lbs, and have a 6500lb GVW, or a 2013 Limited hemi with tow package and tow 7200lbs and have a 6800lb GVW? Im confused on this.

lysol 02-14-2013 07:12 PM

Google is your friend my friend.

But to answer your thread, GVW (6500lbs & 6800lbs) is Gross Vehicle Weight. Your vehicle should never exceed this weight. This includes gas and all fluids, passengers, luggage, etc... for the vehicle only

The towing capacity (7200lbs) is the maximum weight of the object you are towing.

On a side note, if you read more, you'll see that the tongue rating on the tow package for the Jeep is 500lbs. that is how much downward force is being applied to the hitch.

barry1me 02-14-2013 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by lysol (Post 14970281)
Google is your friend my friend.

But to answer your thread, GVW (6500lbs & 6800lbs) is Gross Vehicle Weight. Your vehicle should never exceed this weight. This includes gas and all fluids, passengers, luggage, etc... for the vehicle only

The towing capacity (7200lbs) is the maximum weight of the object you are towing.

On a side note, if you read more, you'll see that the tongue rating on the tow package for the Jeep is 500lbs. that is how much downward force is being applied to the hitch.

I know what GVW is....I didnt ask the question clearly enough. a Limited 4x4 hemi with trailer tow package (6800gvw) vs a laredo x hemi 4x4 with trailer tow package (6500gvw) both have the same payload capacity and towing capacity. I was just a little confused on they didnt change towing capacity with the HD vs SD brakes.

WvTaco 02-14-2013 07:45 PM

ok 4x4 hemi
larado gvw is 6500 payload is 1480 but curb weight is 5020
limited gvw is 6800 payload is 1660 but curb is 5150
overland gvw is 6800 payload is 1590 but curb is 5210
on 11 models.

if i had to guess the awnser would be quadra lift.

5-90 02-14-2013 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by barry1me (Post 14970143)
Ok so im a bit confused on the 6500 vs 6800GVW. What does this mean in the sense of how does it affect Payload, or Towing capacity? You can purchase a 2013 Laredo X hemi with a tow package and it will tow 7200lbs, and have a 6500lb GVW, or a 2013 Limited hemi with tow package and tow 7200lbs and have a 6800lb GVW? Im confused on this.

GVWR = Gross Vehicle Weight Rating - how much you can put on its four wheels. This is determined from the frame, engine, suspension, tyres, brakes, &c.

GCVWR = Gross Combined Vehicle Weight Rating. Weight limit of vehicle and towed load (trailer + payload.)

Tongue Weight = The "downforce" on the trailer hitch/tow point. Usually 10% or less of towed weight (typically, a 1,500# tow rating allows for 150# of tongue weight. A 5,000# tow rating can be anywhere between an allowed 200-500# tongue weight - may be more, may be less.) Tongue weight can be changed by positioning of the load on the trailer, even though total weight does not change.

"Dry Weight" = Vehicle, no fuel, no driver, no passengers.

"Wet weight" = Vehicle, full fluids. May include driver.

"Kerb weight"/"Curb weight" = Vehicle, full fluids, unloaded. Typically does not include driver, and usually also considered "wet weight" (I'm thinking back to ground school for wet weight - but wet weight of an airplane usually does not include anything beyond airframe, engine, fuel/fluids.)

"Payload," obviously, is the difference between GVWR & kerb weight.

Can you overload past GVWR? Often, yes - but you'd better have better tyres than OEM, you'd better drive carefully, and you'd damned well better think ahead WRT stops! Being "overweight" (as far as your GVWR) usually makes any roads incidents automatically your fault, since you're not likely to be able to control your vehicle (steering & braking will both suffer.)

barry1me 02-14-2013 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 5-90 (Post 14971163)
GVWR = Gross Vehicle Weight Rating - how much you can put on its four wheels. This is determined from the frame, engine, suspension, tyres, brakes, &c.

GCVWR = Gross Combined Vehicle Weight Rating. Weight limit of vehicle and towed load (trailer + payload.)

Tongue Weight = The "downforce" on the trailer hitch/tow point. Usually 10% or less of towed weight (typically, a 1,500# tow rating allows for 150# of tongue weight. A 5,000# tow rating can be anywhere between an allowed 200-500# tongue weight - may be more, may be less.) Tongue weight can be changed by positioning of the load on the trailer, even though total weight does not change.

"Dry Weight" = Vehicle, no fuel, no driver, no passengers.

"Wet weight" = Vehicle, full fluids. May include driver.

"Kerb weight"/"Curb weight" = Vehicle, full fluids, unloaded. Typically does not include driver, and usually also considered "wet weight" (I'm thinking back to ground school for wet weight - but wet weight of an airplane usually does not include anything beyond airframe, engine, fuel/fluids.)

"Payload," obviously, is the difference between GVWR & kerb weight.

Can you overload past GVWR? Often, yes - but you'd better have better tyres than OEM, you'd better drive carefully, and you'd damned well better think ahead WRT stops! Being "overweight" (as far as your GVWR) usually makes any roads incidents automatically your fault, since you're not likely to be able to control your vehicle (steering & braking will both suffer.)

I understand all of what you said above but I was just confused on why they only change the GVW by 300lbs and totally change brakes on jeep, but yet it doesnt provide any increased trailer towing capacity.

lysol 02-15-2013 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by barry1me (Post 14971181)
I understand all of what you said above but I was just confused on why they only change the GVW by 300lbs and totally change brakes on jeep, but yet it doesnt provide any increased trailer towing capacity.

Have you seen the video where they loaded a JGC to the max and performed the "moose test"?

Maybe this has something to do with it? :dunno:

tdbmd 06-27-2013 09:41 AM

Sort of a related question, is the 2014 V6 rated for over 6000 lbs GVWR? The reason that I ask is that we may be able to write it off as a work truck if over 6000 lbs

tjkj2002 06-27-2013 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by barry1me (Post 14971181)
I understand all of what you said above but I was just confused on why they only change the GVW by 300lbs and totally change brakes on jeep, but yet it doesnt provide any increased trailer towing capacity.

Same body,same trans,same engine so it will not change the tow limit.The different suspension will effect GVWR though but not max tow limits.

WvTaco 06-27-2013 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by tdbmd (Post 15613293)
Sort of a related question, is the 2014 V6 rated for over 6000 lbs GVWR? The reason that I ask is that we may be able to write it off as a work truck if over 6000 lbs

6500 it seems for both 2wd and 4x4

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tdbmd 06-28-2013 11:51 AM

Thanks


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