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post #1 of 5 Old 10-13-2017, 04:20 AM Thread Starter
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2018 Overland - what fascia is removeable?

I've read comments to the effect that some fascia that is not removeable (for off-road clearance) on the Summit, IS removeable on the Overland.

If more detail and clarification could be made available, it would help me determine whether to choose the Overland over the Summit. Any help on this is much appreciated. Thanks.


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post #2 of 5 Old 10-13-2017, 05:35 AM
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Boy, that's a body shop question. I'm replying as I recently ordered a Summit because we liked the special interior, and it was bundled with most of the options we wanted for driving in the Colorado snow and towing our camper. We are retired and do not plan on any off road excursions in our Grand Cherokee. I perceived the Summit as the "luxury" version of the Grand Cherokee line. The salesman specifically told us about the different front fascia on the Summit that helps identify it as something special. Blah, blah, blah.

I also think Jeep created the "Trail Hawk" model as the rough and ready off road Grand Cherokee. It comes standard with the skid plate package. It might have the ground clearance and approach angles you are seeking. And maybe you like the quadra lift air suspension so you can pump up another inch or two of ground clearance.

Certainly if I got in a fender bender, the front fascia could be removed and replaced on my Summit.

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On non-Summit trims the lower portion of the front fascia is removable. There are 7 quarter-turn fasteners that you have to take out and then you can pop the lower fascia off pretty easily. If your vehicle is equipped with FCW/ACC then you'll want to remove the DASM as well, which is just a pair of bolts so it's also easy to do. The obvious benefit is the increased approach angle. Since the wheel liner still kind of hangs down I also like to zip-tie the front edge of the wheel liners to what's left of the fascia or the FEM to keep the wheel liners from getting ripped off accidentally.
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post #4 of 5 Old 10-13-2017, 07:08 AM
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Nice explanation. FCA calls the "field" removable piece an air-dam. Many call it a facia and that may cause some confusion, as the facia is also the piece that covers the bumper. The Summit air-dam is part of the front facia and is not removable short of a body shop type effort. Dunno about the SRT, but the others are removable. Removing the air-dam gets you another 10 degrees in approach angle and less chance of costly air-dam repair.

The "belly pan" under the radiator and in front of the front cross member where an OEM skid plate may or may not be attached is made of plastic and there have been many here that have shattered it during off roading. There are a couple aftermarket aluminum plates available to shore up that area. They bolt over the plastic piece, a nice quick easy install for those that want just a little more than a plastic belly pan.

The TrailHawk is a styling package for the Limited that comes with ORAII and some other features standard. Any model with the ORAII package is just as rough and ready. You can get rock rails as a factory option on a TrailHawk where its available as a dealer installed accessory for other models.

The ORAI or the AVT package, available only on base Laredo Es, include all the bits of the ORAII package except the air suspension and ELSD, its also includes trail rated badge.... so its rough and ready too.

The Laredo E with the $1500 AVT may be the least expensive way to get a trail rated rough and ready WK2. They are not currently offered with a V8, however.

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Please note that the High Altitude package on Overland also provides Summit fascias/dams, but I don't think that the HA is under your consideration since it's not available with the ORA-II option.

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