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Unread 04-03-2013, 07:52 PM   #46
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The WK2 hasn't been offered in North America with a diesel. Am I in the right sub forum? Neither has the Wrangler. Kind of pointless talking about what another model does or gets, most of us are aware of it, maybe not Chrysler. They're not listening anyway.
If you look at NDSU_Bison's information, you'll note he has an older JGC, a 2008 with the then-offered CRD engine. "WK" is the previous generation JGC. He was reiterating the reasons why he chose it and I took that to be a positive endorsement of the upcoming WK2 CRD.

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Unread 04-03-2013, 08:12 PM   #47
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Have to agree Jason911... I was wondering if its replicable. I have a 12' altitude than I'm planning on lifting (does have 4Low) and 35's would be insane. How feasible is it really however? Too little in the way of actual upgrades has been released. Body work is simple, but that's a big meat for the WK2.
I concur. The CRD has the added benefit of built-in torque - Depending on your engine in your 2012 altitude your final drive ratio could be relatively weak. The V6 only had 3.07 gears, the 5.7 liter had a little bit more respectable 3.47 gears - still not much however, when you factor in larger/heavier tires.
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Unread 04-03-2013, 08:12 PM   #48
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If you look at NDSU_Bison's information, you'll note he has an older JGC, a 2008 with the then-offered CRD engine. "WK" is the previous generation JGC. He was reiterating the reasons why he chose it and I took that to be a positive endorsement of the upcoming WK2 CRD.
A friend of mine has a WK with a diesel and likes it. He didn't buy it for fuel mileage. The diesel would be a nice option for larger tires.
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Unread 04-03-2013, 09:44 PM   #49
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I concur. The CRD has the added benefit of built-in torque - Depending on your engine in your 2012 altitude your final drive ratio could be relatively weak. The V6 only had 3.07 gears, the 5.7 liter had a little bit more respectable 3.47 gears - still not much however, when you factor in larger/heavier tires.
Yup, and I'm rolling the V6... 430 ft lb sounds fun however....
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Unread 04-03-2013, 10:13 PM   #50
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Yup, and I'm rolling the V6... 430 ft lb sounds fun however....
Speaking from experience, and using my '08 CRD as a example - the 376 lb ft it puts out - is fun! 50 more would be even better! But I digress - we are off topic.
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Unread 04-04-2013, 05:41 AM   #51
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So what's the likelihood of seeing a production model? Trailhawk 1 wasn't anything special IMO. Stickers and ugly red hooks lol.
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Unread 04-04-2013, 08:40 AM   #52
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So what's the likelihood of seeing a production model? Trailhawk 1 wasn't anything special IMO. Stickers and ugly red hooks lol.
The first version of the Trailhawk was a little bit more than stickers and red tow hooks. It also included the full undercarriage steel skid plates, Factory Mopar rock rails, a fantastic suede/leather red piping interior, And "the most aggressive tires ever put on a production Grand Cherokee" and that's directly from Chrysler -As well as the aforementioned hood badge and color matched tow hooks.

To answer your question, "what's the likelihood of production model" - It's anybody's guess, but Chrysler has all likelihood of listening to what customers want and producing them in limited builds - case in point the previous Trailhawk and the plethora of special edition wranglers. And I know for fact that Chrysler reads these boards and bases some of their inputs on want us members are writing ranting and raving about.

For myself, I would purchase a 2015 Ecodiesel model, if I could order without the Quadra-lift air ride suspension. One thing I would like to see across-the-board is a shift from the subdued "rich" metallic paints and to something a little bit more live and bright - I don't know if the blood orange is certainly my forte, but a brighter color line overall, perhaps a bright red, bright silver or a blue - something along those lines maybe bring back the green something a little bit more fun. If I had a go out and buy a brand-new WK2 tomorrow, the only color that really appeals to me is white.
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Unread 04-04-2013, 10:16 AM   #53
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For myself, I would purchase a 2015 Ecodiesel model, if I could order without the Quadra-lift air ride suspension.
One of the main reasons I bought the one I did - it was one of very few 2011 Overland V8s with all the options out there, but no air ride. I'm just not a fan of how they make the option packages so restrictive.
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Unread 04-04-2013, 12:17 PM   #54
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If it didn't cost an arm and a leg, I would convert my white altitude. I'd prob just roll with the hood and stock bumper, skid plates are easy to add. Hopefully this year ill have the RRO on with 33's.

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Unread 04-06-2013, 09:24 PM   #55
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A little bit more info to share: truck trend.com has a write up on it, and its a bit more revealing than the other threads. Seems the skunk works used just a 1.5" spacer on the suspension. Great pictures at the link:

http://www.trucktrend.com/autoshows/...013/index.html
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Unread 04-13-2013, 07:57 PM   #56
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More info via youtube. MArk Allen from Jeep specifically calls out what they did to make the tires fit - spacer and a sawzall! I am so salivating over this concept - no chrome!, large tires, non-metallic paint, coil(not air-ride) suspension…..

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Unread 04-15-2013, 07:58 AM   #57
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He mentions no commercially available lift, maybe they don't know of this one?
http://www.dobinsonsprings.com/news-...herokeewk2.php

http://www.dobinsonsprings.com/docs/...df/JEEP-62.pdf
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Unread 04-15-2013, 11:12 AM   #58
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He mentions no commercially available lift, maybe they don't know of this one?
http://www.dobinsonsprings.com/news-...herokeewk2.php

http://www.dobinsonsprings.com/docs/...df/JEEP-62.pdf
Or it was done intentionally - perhaps Jeep underground doesn't officially recognize Dobinson Springs.
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Unread 04-15-2013, 05:08 PM   #59
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40mm isn't very much........
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Unread 04-15-2013, 08:25 PM   #60
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40mm isn't very much........
It's 1.574 inches
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