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Unread 03-30-2013, 07:49 PM   #31
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Well I don't know about you, but I drive mine everyday. It's not a toy, and MPG makes a difference.
Mine is my daily driver. If you wanted fuel economy a Patriot or Compass would have been a better choice.

It is also my toy. Again, nobody looks at SUVs, Jeep Wranglers/Grand Cherokees especially, for good gas mileage. Yea, it may be a nice "bonus" as I see it for these 4x4s but one should definitely not look to save gas with a Jeep.



Anywho....every time I look at that Trailhawk I wish I had one (it is my laptop background haha)

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Unread 03-31-2013, 07:47 AM   #32
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Mine is my daily driver. If you wanted fuel economy a Patriot or Compass would have been a better choice.

It is also my toy. Again, nobody looks at SUVs, Jeep Wranglers/Grand Cherokees especially, for good gas mileage. Yea, it may be a nice "bonus" as I see it for these 4x4s but one should definitely not look to save gas with a Jeep.

Anywho....every time I look at that Trailhawk I wish I had one (it is my laptop background haha)
Lol it is a bad looking machine. My wife is tired of hear all the reasons I could dump the altitude.
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Unread 03-31-2013, 11:40 AM   #33
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It's a diesel. Nobody buys a Jeep for fuel economy.
Mine is a daily driver, a jeep and a diesel - I bought it because of the good mileage.... I get 23mpg realisticly.
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Unread 03-31-2013, 11:42 AM   #34
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How did they manage to fit 34.5" tires on the WK2? That looks awesome.
Sawzall and a mild lift.
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Unread 03-31-2013, 11:48 AM   #35
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Sawzall and a mild lift.
Specialty Mopar fender flares, and quadra-lift on it's highest setting.
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Unread 03-31-2013, 12:54 PM   #36
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Specialty Mopar fender flares, and quadra-lift on it's highest setting.
While the concept retains the select-terrain, it doesn't have quadra-lift - this concept uses coils and a mild lift only, along with the aforementioned fender flares.
Expedition portal has a very nice concise article about it, along with some fantastic pictures.

http://www.expeditionportal.com/vehi...ilhawk-ii.html
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Unread 03-31-2013, 06:21 PM   #37
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Thanks for the info, my apologies, I was misinformed: (see 1:00 of the video attached)
http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2...irst-look.html

A gripe though, if you will... even your link, with it's dozen+ pictures, aside from the plastic engine cover, really only shows exterior shots, nothing from underneath or whatever. Give us the goods!
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Unread 03-31-2013, 08:11 PM   #38
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A gripe though, if you will... even your link, with it's dozen+ pictures, aside from the plastic engine cover, really only shows exterior shots, nothing from underneath or whatever. Give us the goods![/QUOTE]

I took the high pixel/high definition photos found on a multitude of different websites; including autoblog.com and expeditionportal.com and zoomed/filtered a few of the photos - you can actually see the cut job that was done to the fender wells and you can see the coil springs. Beyond that, I am only to speculate by piecing together all the info that was provided from the media day in Moab. It would be safe to say that the plush leather/suede 2013 TrailHawk seat covers were reused, as references are made to that effect. I would also guesstimate that some of the interior bits from the SRT8 were used in place of the wood interior(following the aluminum theme from the 2013). Unknown is what type of spacing/spacers was/were used to fit the 17" 2013 Rubicon wheels. ride and drive is anyone's guess, along with running the 35" tires. Granted the EcoDiesel cranks out 420 lbft of torque, but with only 3.45 final drive ratio one could guess on a substantial power loss to spin that much rubber on the highway(unless the 3.70 gears were used from the SRT8).
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Unread 03-31-2013, 08:14 PM   #39
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Here's one more video to see courtesy of Chrysler/Fiat:

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Unread 03-31-2013, 10:46 PM   #40
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It looks like the rock rails are shortened about 1-1.5" also compared to the Mopar parts ones. They end just after the tubes.
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I took the high pixel/high definition photos found on a multitude of different websites; including autoblog.com and expeditionportal.com and zoomed/filtered a few of the photos - you can actually see the cut job that was done to the fender wells and you can see the coil springs. Beyond that, I am only to speculate by piecing together all the info that was provided from the media day in Moab. It would be safe to say that the plush leather/suede 2013 TrailHawk seat covers were reused, as references are made to that effect. I would also guesstimate that some of the interior bits from the SRT8 were used in place of the wood interior(following the aluminum theme from the 2013). Unknown is what type of spacing/spacers was/were used to fit the 17" 2013 Rubicon wheels. ride and drive is anyone's guess, along with running the 35" tires. Granted the EcoDiesel cranks out 420 lbft of torque, but with only 3.45 final drive ratio one could guess on a substantial power loss to spin that much rubber on the highway(unless the 3.70 gears were used from the SRT8).
Thanks for the info man!
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Unread 04-03-2013, 11:49 AM   #42
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Thanks for the info man!
Happy to help.

The question I find myself asking, is - can it be duplicated? I suppose its a easy answer, relatively anyway. Without actually seeing the vehicle first hand, some speculation would have to take place. Full undercarriage shielding is simple enough - molar factory and/or asfir.com parts would take care of that. Rubicon wheels from a 2013 model is also relatively simple. Fitting them might be a trail and error process if the offsets are different. A mild lift via RRO.com or a 1-off would suffice. Stuffing the 35's into the wheel wells is the major issue. I would like to think that a set of 33" tires would better suffice without resorting to a sawzall. The other area of concern is the interior - parts swapping is a fairly straightforward(if expensive) process, but would the 2013 seat covers work with the 2014 seats? One would hope - the split leather/suede is fantastic.
Additionally, swapping the hood and nose from a SRT8 would be required.

It's an assumption, but Jeep will most likely have another Trailhawk model based on the 2014/2015 model years - and the 2013 was sold in international markets with the CRD engine.
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Unread 04-03-2013, 02:12 PM   #43
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Add me to the list of people who bought a CRD for fuel economy. It's one of the few SUVs that can tow more than 5,000 lbs and get better fuel economy.

Our 2002 Durango with the 5.9 liter engine averaged around 13-14 MPG and 8 MPG when towing our camper. During the same commuting trips, our CRD got 22.3 MPG last month and around 12-13 MPG when towing the camper.

As for the cost of the CRD compared to the Hemi in 2008, I recouped that in fuel savings in less than 60,000 miles which was 50,000 miles ago.



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Add me to the list of people who bought a CRD for fuel economy. It's one of the few SUVs that can tow more than 5,000 lbs and get better fuel economy.

Our 2002 Durango with the 5.9 liter engine averaged around 13-14 MPG and 8 MPG when towing our camper. During the same commuting trips, our CRD got 22.3 MPG last month and around 12-13 MPG when towing the camper.

As for the cost of the CRD compared to the Hemi in 2008, I recouped that in fuel savings in less than 60,000 miles which was 50,000 miles ago.
The WK2 hasn't been offered in North America with a diesel. Am I in the right sub forum? Neither has the Wrangler. Kind of pointless talking about what another model does or gets, most of us are aware of it, maybe not Chrysler. They're not listening anyway.
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Have to agree Jason911... I was wondering if its replicable. I have a 12' altitude than I'm planning on lifting (does have 4Low) and 35's would be insane. How feasible is it really however? Too little in the way of actual upgrades has been released. Body work is simple, but that's a big meat for the WK2.
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