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Unread 12-31-2013, 01:48 PM   #16
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That's kinda what I was wondering. If the QL still has full range and there isn't much off-road compromise then I would love to have less body roll for all the twisty mountain roads

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Unread 12-31-2013, 02:45 PM   #17
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I ordered the bar from--Factorymoparparts.Com---
Seller --RTPartsco--in Tampa Florida
Part number
68184507-AA Bar Rear.
They gave a list which seems to be all late model Grand Cherokees.
Was on sale, may still be.
Glad I stayed with a stock SRT bar. Perfect fit.
Doesn't affect the ride height, up and down.


Sway bars are a Negative for Off Roading.
All we will ever do though is a few Ranch Roads here and there.
Climbing around under this thing with Air Suspension revels some pretty delicate looking sensors and electrical connections.
Easy to sweep away maybe, I don't know.
Urban Jungle bad enough for me.
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Unread 12-31-2013, 05:39 PM   #18
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Do you have quadralift?
What exactly are the off-road negatives?

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Unread 12-31-2013, 06:12 PM   #19
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I ordered the bar from--Factorymoparparts.Com---
Seller --RTPartsco--in Tampa Florida
Part number
68184507-AA Bar Rear.
They gave a list which seems to be all late model Grand Cherokees.
Was on sale, may still be.
Glad I stayed with a stock SRT bar. Perfect fit.
Doesn't affect the ride height, up and down.
Are any other parts required to do the swap? Also how much larger is the SRT rear bar when compared to the stock WK2 Hemi rear bar? Thanks
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Unread 01-01-2014, 08:36 AM   #20
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I saw posted elsewhere that stocks are 23, SRTs are 25 mm. Dunno if new links are also required for best results.
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Unread 01-01-2014, 09:05 AM   #21
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Yes it has Quadralift. Off road. Skid shields, etc.
Direct replacement. No extra parts needed. Comes with the rubber cushions already installed. For the life time looks like.
The negatives are that the axels are connected more and more the stronger the sway bars are.
That's why there is, for the real off road vehicles, little or no sway bar connected.
Or easy disconnects.
Had a 3 generation Corvette I used to race. Had 3/4 in rear bar. You could jack up the whole back in from one side. Very little give.
So not what you would want off road.
But
Reality for this GC
It is a road car that can go a lot further off road that most can.
And in wet, mud, gravel, snow, ice.
Is much more capable that almost any.
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Unread 01-01-2014, 12:53 PM   #22
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I am thinking that since you can't go very big on tires for the 2014 GC and there is no aftermarket lift for QL suspension that extreme articulation is not in the cards anyway. I think flatter cornering is worth the swap for me as long as snow/ice, desert sand/dirt roads and mild off-roading isn't effected very much.

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Unread 01-02-2014, 03:11 PM   #23
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I guess the places I would avoid is deep water and cross country with tough grasses, bushes, type growing.
Don't want some things to get too wet or sweep away. Especially salt.
There are some electrical connections to computer controlled sensors and solenoids under there.
Transmissions, lift sensors, electric controlled rear Dif.
It will do what it can but it's not magic.
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Unread 01-09-2014, 03:33 PM   #24
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So what I'm gathering is replacing both bars is not necessary, just the rear to tighten things up correct?

Also do you need to replace the links as well or will the stock links work with the SRT bar.

Going to go on a 2014 Overland w/ QL
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Unread 01-09-2014, 05:09 PM   #25
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If you want to maintain the same understeer behavior, replace both. Replacing the rear reduces understeer a bit (still safe) and flattens the corners a bit both desirable for those that play in the twisties.... or prefer a more neutral steering response. Most just replace the rear. Dunno about the links, Gunny said he didn't change them. Justforjeeps says links are required but sold separately.
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Unread 01-09-2014, 05:32 PM   #26
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So it almost sounds like the front bars (SRT and non SRT) are the same. Am I wrong in assuming that?
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Unread 01-09-2014, 11:06 PM   #27
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They have different part numbers, but I don't know the difference. SRTs are probably stiffer.
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Unread 01-11-2014, 11:28 AM   #28
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Stock links work fine.
All that is needed, for the rear, is the bar. And a stout 5/16 inch 6 sided Socket or Box wrench to hold the Bolt still so the Nut on the Link can be turned. Tedious. I used a impact socket cause my old 12 point craftsman socket broke.

The front stock bar is -35 MM-. Very stout looking.
Someone that has access to a SRT might measure the front bar.
None around here.
35 MM is a pretty stout bar. About 1 7/16. And short arms.
From a weight of the Engine I doubt the SRT engine is heavier or much heavier.
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Unread 01-11-2014, 01:55 PM   #29
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I'm going to have a set of SRT bars here in about a week and I will take some measurements. Stay tuned...
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Unread 01-11-2014, 03:11 PM   #30
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Sway bars vs stiffer spring rates

I prefer to use stiff springs and thinner sway bars. I guess this comes from track days and racing. You can go too thick on sway bars and then in wrong situation the stiffer and thicker bar can rip control arms and other parts out etc.
But stiffer springs arent readily available for a WK2 and if you have the air suspension you are stuck.

I dont have the spring rates for the V6, V8, diesel powered and SRT WK2s

Interesting that no one makes an adjustable bar yet.

I find the V6 powered WK2 better balanced than V8 powered WK2. I havent had a chance to push a diesel powered one yet. Weight distribution confirms this.
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