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post #1 of 46 Old 11-18-2013, 12:38 PM Thread Starter
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2014 Sway Bars

Will the 2014 SRT Front and Rear Stabilizer Bars fit the 2014 Overland?
Or other years?
Would it be a straight change out? Using the appropriate Bushings and brackets.
Would it need the end links also?
If so why?
Thanks.
Seems like almost every vehicle I ever had I changed Sway Bars around.
First car was a 66 GTO which must have affected my mind.

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post #2 of 46 Old 11-18-2013, 01:46 PM
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I have a set of SRT8 swaybars on order for a customer. We're going to do the swap and will report back on the handling improvement.

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post #3 of 46 Old 11-18-2013, 03:31 PM
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The sways on my SRT seem huge. Was blown away the first time I crawled under there. I don't have anything to compare them to though.

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I have a set of SRT8 swaybars on order for a customer. We're going to do the swap and will report back on the handling improvement.
I know the handling will be better for me. street and highway.
just need to know if it is a straight swap.
like is there a difference in the way the bar is shaped.
not going to go off road .
ranch road maybe.
Thanks Kolak
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The sways on my SRT are HUGE. Was blown away the first time I crawled under there.
I read that the front SRT bar is only slightly larger.

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post #6 of 46 Old 11-18-2013, 05:41 PM
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The fronts don't buy you anything, but the rears provide a noticeable improvement. The links are shorter. I've read many have swapped them out.

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I wonder why the links would be shorter?
Maybe because the SRT sits lower than the others.
Overland has the air lift thing.
I think SRT also but does it change ride height too?
So maybe a swap out as far as the same shape?
New bushings and bushings brackets?
Keep stock end links?
What I'm getting to.
What have others found?
I've seen where the front is almost the same size.
Would then depend on how the front moved after the rear was changed to bigger.
Sometime it hunts around on some cars.
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I wonder why the links would be shorter?
Maybe because the SRT sits lower than the others.
Overland has the air lift thing.
I think SRT also but does it change ride height too?
So maybe a swap out as far as the same shape?
New bushings and bushings brackets?
Keep stock end links?
What I'm getting to.
What have others found?
I've seen where the front is almost the same size.
Would then depend on how the front moved after the rear was changed to bigger.
Sometime it hunts around on some cars.
I can see wanting better handling but if so why did you buy a overland? I have read on here that the air suspension rides better but handles a little worse than the coil springs. No changing the sway bars will not change ride height, I am guessing that the links are shorter because of the ride height difference, if so you may be able to keep the stock ones.
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I can see wanting better handling but if so why did you buy a overland? I have read on here that the air suspension rides better but handles a little worse than the coil springs. No changing the sway bars will not change ride height, I am guessing that the links are shorter because of the ride height difference, if so you may be able to keep the stock ones.
Not sure where you read that, and am not sure how you define handle better. I think the QL in sport mode (lower center of gravity) handles better in the twisties and on high speed highways than the std suspension. There can be more of a bounce feel over severe irregularities, however.

Sway bar links are shorter because shorter links work better for street transitioning and flat cornering performance. The WK2, like most vehicles, is set up for massive understeer. Putting a SRT sway bar on the rear will reduce understeer and reduce roll. Putting them also on the front will push the other way, perhaps a tad flatter on the corner but the vehicle will push much more. The best set up appears to be installing rear sway bars only.

The thicker sway bars will make off roading a bit more challenging, but those putting bigger sway pars on are not driving off road.

The SRT does not have QL, it has coil springs and active/adaptive shocks.

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post #10 of 46 Old 11-19-2013, 05:52 PM Thread Starter
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And the SRT cost 20K more than the Overland. Which has everything I need except --maybe---more buttoned down highway.
Maybe we'll see.
Handling is a Safety Thing I believe.
Avoidance, too much curve, things like that.
Not really going off roading with this thing. Very little, bad road maybe, kind of thing.
Just too specialized I think.
The Jeep for me is like a lot of things at my age.
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All right.
Our Overland came in the other day. Air Suspension.
I had already ordered the SRT --Rear bar.
An interesting piece. Had cushion brackets already installed. Pretty much non removable.
A couple of tabs for something on the ends of each.
25 mm.
Stock ride very comfortable with just a hint of "Tippy". But it catches itself with one movement. Really pretty nice ride.
The stock bar, on this v8, is 23mm. They may all be 23mm, v6 and v8, I don't know. Except SRT.
So no hurry to install.
Yesterday though I did. Might as well.
Very easy except the end link bolts, really the nuts, are just about the tightest I have ever seen. And small. Maybe 7mm or 5/16. Tight, tight.
But got the bar changed. Once the end links undone, easy out.
The little tabs retain the parking brake cables.
The ride after just perfect.
Goldilocks. Planted on the road just a little better.
No more Tippy. Moves down the road solid.
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All right.
Our Overland came in the other day. Air Suspension.
I had already ordered the SRT --Rear bar.
An interesting piece. Had cushion brackets already installed. Pretty much non removable.
A couple of tabs for something on the ends of each.
25 mm.
Stock ride very comfortable with just a hint of "Tippy". But it catches itself with one movement. Really pretty nice ride.
The stock bar, on this v8, is 23mm. They may all be 23mm, v6 and v8, I don't know. Except SRT.
So no hurry to install.
Yesterday though I did. Might as well.
Very easy except the end link bolts, really the nuts, are just about the tightest I have ever seen. And small. Maybe 7mm or 5/16. Tight, tight.
But got the bar changed. Once the end links undone, easy out.
The little tabs retain the parking brake cables.
The ride after just perfect.
Goldilocks. Planted on the road just a little better.
No more Tippy. Moves down the road solid.
I'm going to have to try that on my Overland. Did you order the sway bar from your local dealer or online vendor?

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Can someone elaborate on the negative effect an srt rear sway bar would have on off-roading?
And would the swap work on a 2014 diesel with ORA2 QL?

I would consider the swap for all the twisty road driving I do if it doesn't have too much effect on off-road capability.

Thanks

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Can someone elaborate on the negative effect an srt rear sway bar would have on off-roading?
And would the swap work on a 2014 diesel with ORA2 QL?

I would consider the swap for all the twisty road driving I do if it doesn't have too much effect on off-road capability.

Thanks
In theory a stiffer sway bar won't allow as much articulation in your suspension, but in a independent front and rear vehicle im not sure that really matters a whole lot.
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With solid axles the difference is very notable. However with IFS/IRS...

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