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Unread 10-18-2012, 12:52 AM   #1
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2014 Diesel Grand cherokee release information

Waiting and watching for years for Jeep to bring back the Diesels after Mercedes sold Chrysler has not been easy. Watching all the New Wranglers diesels get made here in Detroit then getting shipped to Europe instead of here is heart wrenching. But living in Detroit we get to see and hear things from people who work on these projects and I was told that the diesel motors are stocked and waiting for January 2013 assembly for March 2103 delivery as 2014's. We need these diesels so badly...Thank you Chrysler!!!!!

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Unread 10-18-2012, 06:50 AM   #2
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I can neither confirm or deny unless it's "officially" published.
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Unread 10-18-2012, 08:02 AM   #3
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Why do we need diesels

Sorry if we had competent leadership in the WH gas prices would be around $2.50 gallon or so. A Fed monetary policy that has driven the value of the dollar down and foreign policy of appeasement and apology have led to gas prices being significantly higher than they need to be. Four more years just means gas will cost $6 a gallon by 2014.

Will be interesting to see what the premium is for the "Ecodiesel"? If the diesel need urea injection than you have to add it approx every 8000 miles. Question is can the owner do it and reset the computer or is dealer only.
Problem with urea injection is when it dumps you into limp home mode.
Currently diesel is above $4 a gallon in my area with regular selling for $3.66
so I am not sure the extra costs of a diesel maintenance wise, the extra cost to purchase and the higher cost of diesel are worth it?????

Now if the choice is between the so called Hemi and the diesel it might be worth considering but not V6. Chrysler needs a modern V8 more than it needs a diesel.
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Unread 10-18-2012, 09:16 AM   #4
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The Hemi still runs strong, and competes well when tuned and geared properly. The Rams do well. All need the 390+HP and 400+ft-lbs. I would never buy a diesel, but that's just me.
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Unread 10-19-2012, 11:57 AM   #5
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Sorry if we had competent leadership in the WH gas prices would be around $2.50 gallon or so.
You are overestimating the power of anybody in the WH. They do not set up gas-prices - the market does. Supply and demand.

If China has a high demand for gas and is willing to pay for it, what makes you believe that we can get the same gas for less money?

Although decisions are made in Washington, they are no longer made by elected officials. They are made by lobbyists. I'm realistic enough to know that. And the oil-industry has many of them.
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Unread 10-19-2012, 12:00 PM   #6
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Sorry if we had competent leadership in the WH gas prices would be around $2.50 gallon or so. A Fed monetary policy that has driven the value of the dollar down and foreign policy of appeasement and apology have led to gas prices being significantly higher than they need to be. Four more years just means gas will cost $6 a gallon by 2014.

Will be interesting to see what the premium is for the "Ecodiesel"? If the diesel need urea injection than you have to add it approx every 8000 miles. Question is can the owner do it and reset the computer or is dealer only.
Problem with urea injection is when it dumps you into limp home mode.
Currently diesel is above $4 a gallon in my area with regular selling for $3.66
so I am not sure the extra costs of a diesel maintenance wise, the extra cost to purchase and the higher cost of diesel are worth it?????

Now if the choice is between the so called Hemi and the diesel it might be worth considering but not V6. Chrysler needs a modern V8 more than it needs a diesel.
Go to Europe and ask that question. I was just in Norway and I bet 90% of the vehicles were diesel.

I want a diesel GC for the highway gas mileage and low end torque. I pay for premium anyway, so might as well get some mileage benefits from it.
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Unread 10-19-2012, 04:29 PM   #7
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In the EU

And Norway tax policy favors diesel engines in passenger cars over gas. So in these socialist countries they are using tax policy to limit your choices. diesel is cheaper so folks buy diesel. It pollutes more and causes cancer but hey its cheaper.

The WH through political pressure influences Beranke. Beranke and the Fed can lower interest rates or keep them low which drives down the value of the dollar. The current Fed chairman is swayed by arm twisting from the WH. He wants to be reappointed in 2013. A barrel of oil is priced in dollars. If the Fed and the WH drive the value of dollar down the price of a barrel of oil goes up.

Our foreign policy is a disaster, Offing UBL did nothing and our image in the world is one of weakness similar to what was under Bubba Bill. we have done nothing to stop Iran from building Nucs and AQ has increased its influence and power dramatically n the last 24mos. As a result you have a fear premium built into the price of oil especially Brent North Sea,

Also the WH has a policy out there to encourage folks to move into urban areas they accomplish this by raising the price of gas. Also see their policy on alternative energy sources and to minimize oil exploration both onshore and offshore in CONUS.

Come on Comrade Barry and and his socialists want us all to use public transportation and live in worker housing while receiving food stamps or working local govt union jobs. That way we always vote for the Dems.

Rationale fiscal and monetary policy along with a a strong foreign and national security policy would drive oil prices down to around $2.50 a gallon.
That is still 70 cents higher than when Obama took office. Bubba Bill's monetary and fiscal policy was more rationale than Barry's.
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Unread 10-19-2012, 04:45 PM   #8
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It pollutes more and causes cancer but hey its cheaper.
Can you back up the statement about diesel fuel?
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Unread 10-19-2012, 04:46 PM   #9
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It pollutes more and causes cancer but hey its cheaper" Really... that is the first I have ever heard diesel causes cancer! Actually diesel is cleaner. Remember you have to account for the pollution created in making gasoline! It all adds up. I would like having a choice. Most of Europe is diesel for
a reason. Hell I get 44 mgp in my VW Sport Wagon. Think they will come out with a Hybrid GC?
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Unread 10-19-2012, 09:32 PM   #10
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Our foreign policy is a disaster, Offing UBL did nothing and our image in the world is one of weakness similar to what was under Bubba Bill..
Shame on us - Europe doesn't hate us right now..
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Unread 10-20-2012, 07:17 AM   #11
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Diesel exhaust particulates are quite carcinogenic. That's why we have DPFs, Bluetec, etc etc..
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Unread 10-20-2012, 07:30 AM   #12
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I was questioning: as compared to gasoline.

BTW, your parents cause more cancer than anything else.
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Unread 10-20-2012, 03:16 PM   #13
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Sorry Europe

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Shame on us - Europe doesn't hate us right now..
Will always hate us. ANd who cares US foreign policy should be based on what is good for the US and who cares about the rest of the world. They dont care about the US so why should we worry about what they think!

The Prince of Darkness Dick Cheney if he were prez would have scared the economy into 5%+ growth in GDP for the last 16 quarters and had our friends and enemies spending way too much time changing their Depends. Instead we have Comrade Barry everyone's friend big time not good.

By the way diesels even with Bluetec emit very fine particulant matter which our EPA says causes cancer. Read the EPA studies.
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Unread 10-21-2012, 06:11 AM   #14
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I know I'm noob here but can we get back to the original intent of the thread? I'm not going to try to sway a Hemi lover and I'm not going to offer a thesis on emissions, particulate emission sizes or different emission types and their relationship between environmental quality & human health. I'm not interested in your thoughts on the environment on this thread either.

Having actually DRIVEN a CRD (jk) for over 163,000 miles, I am interested in what a wk2 CRD has to offer. I'd like to know more about this opportunity.
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Unread 10-21-2012, 06:36 AM   #15
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I've read a couple places that the 2014 order banks open in December. Except for diesel, production starts late Jan. USA Diesels production begins late March. Should start seeing them on USA streets in April. Those that have been driving the CRD in Europe and Australia love them.
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