Hi All, I am new to this forum, and I am hoping someone can help me out.
In December 2012, I bought a brand new 2011 Grand Cherokee Limited, 5.7L V8, 5 spd auto, 4x4, most of the bells and whistles included with this truck, minus tow package, pano roof. It has been an excellent vehicle to own, very smooth ride, power galore, and great options for the price.
Everything went great until I started having this stalling problem about a year into owning it. What happens is while I am driving, lets say around 80km/hr. (approx. 50/mph) and I start to brake, not lightly, lets say more assertively, my jeep has just decided to stall out at times. This takes away obviously the power steering, power brakes, and makes for one hell of an episode. This has happened around 10 times now! I have to shift it into neutral, turn the truck back on with the push start, and then back into "drive", all while trying to hold the wheel, brake and watch out for cars, traffic, pedestrians, abutments, curbs etc...
Luckily, there have never been cars behind me, nor in front of me, but while attempting to make a turn, while braking, the truck stalled on me the first time and I almost smashed into another car trying to make a turn from oncoming traffic.
I cannot let my wife drive this truck anymore, in case it happens to her, and my dogs are also in the truck with me everyday, twice a day.
It seems to only happen in the morning, once or twice in the afternoon after work, however I have remote start, and the truck is ALWAYS at full or darn close to full operating temps.
it has happened when the weather is between 5-10 Celsius, and 20 - 30 Celsius.
I have taken it to my local dealer in Calgary, AB, they put there top guy on it apparently when I told them of this dangerous issue, they said diagnosis was a simple computer reboot back to factory settings. I have never changed such "settings", I understand the computer makes adjustments as you go, but that seems a bit off.
Any who, after the reset of the computer, it didn't happen for a while, and then all of a sudden, two stalls in a matter of 5 days. This doesn't happen everyday, thank god, but it does happen often enough, that now I have to watch for other traffic, pedestrians, and my damn tachometer while driving. It is very distracting and dangerous.
If anyone has some knowledge of such a thing happening, or have experienced it themselves, please help me out! I am losing it here.
Last time I brought it in they did the latest and greatest PCM flash and transmission flash, it has been their twice for this issue I have. It hasn't stalled since this last time it was flashed. Hopefully it stays this way. Should be free under warranty for you also.
I am still stalling out, the flash seems to have not helped this issue. The dealer has now hooked up a monitoring device, so when I stall out, I push the button on this device and it will record everything going on 45 seconds before the event and after the event. I have had two stalls on this monitor and it is going back to the dealership Wednesday when the electrical guy is back from holidays. Chrysler Canada engineering techs will also be looking at the data.
The dealer did the software update on mine last month. It is stalling out less frequently, only twice in over a month, but the problem has not been fixed. I took it to another dealer and they told me that if it doesn't stall out while they have it they cannot diagnose the problem. I'll have to ask if they can let me use a monitor like your dealer gave you. Please keep me posted on what you find out.
I guess I was lucky, the foreman at the dealership I go to managed to make it stall. I stalled again this morning which is three times now in the last week, and it should all be recorded on the monitor they gave me. I will keep you posted what they tell me. Truck is being brought in Wednesday, hopefully will have a diagnose by end of week. I would keep persistent with your dealer, this is not safe, and is very dangerous to be driving on the road with. You're lucky because you have a lemon law in the States, up here in Canada, we don't have such a thing, so fighting for them to take your car back almost turns into a civil law suit which I don't want to become involved in if I don't have to.
Hey guys, as I read more through other posts and forums, I am pretty sure it is a TIPM issue, just like the other jeep's out there with similar electrical issues, whether it be stalling, not turning over, etc. etc. I have traded it in to the dealer and got a new car, so I won't be a help any longer, however before I did, the service shop re did all the electrical connections. That means cleaned them, re greased the ones which needed, new fuses, checked all relays and made sure nothing "shook" around to much. I still had stalls.
They then wanted to monitor the engine with a diagnostic scanner called a Wi-pod (wee-pod) or something. Believe it or not, while the tool was hooked up, the truck stalled four times on me. I pushed the button when I had a stall, so it could record that event, and off to the dealership I went. Low and behold, the dealer couldn't find anything because they didn't have the parameters set correctly on the wi-pod, and it "crashed". F&*K OFF!!! you F*CKIN F*CKS. They reset the parameters to record only certain criteria, and asked me to drive again. Well because this happens whenever the truck feels like it, I drove around with this device for about 2 weeks, and did not have another stall. pissed me off enough to work a deal with them and trade it in.
I ended up arguing enough with the dealer and Chrysler Canada, and got myself into a 14 summit. They took 8500 off the top of the price, traded in my old 11 Grand Cherokee limited for the cost of what it is going for on Autotrader roughly ($37,000), and credited over 50% of my extended warranty which wasn't used. Not exactly what I had in mind as an outcome, but am I ever glad I did it! the summit is AMAZING. can't describe it in words, I feel like I am driving a $150,000.00 rig. Hopefully this one doesn't end up being a lemon.
Hope you all find a solution to your stalling issues. I had to much wasted time trying to get them to figure it out, and also had my wife not wanting me to drive it any longer, so this was my option for dealing with it.
I've also heard that if the vacuum line from the brake booster to the intake manifold or wherever has a crack or split in it, braking can cause the engine to stall out. Not sure if that affects newer vehicles or not.
I had the exact same problem with my 2012 Durango Citadel with Hemi. I brought it into 2 dealers, about 15 separate visits. I worked the problem up the chain with Chrysler Cust Care including several star cases. None of this got me anywhere, Chrysler would not approve a single attempt to fix this despite the dangers the stalling put me in. Finally this week Chrysler told me one last time that the problem couldn't be fixed.
I pulled the advisor, service manager, and general manager into a meeting. The gen mngr had me tell my story from the beginning and plainly stated that Chrysler wasn't going to fix my Durango. 4 hours later he had me out the door in a 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee Summit at a great deal (thank you Walser Chrysler Jeep Dodge in Hopkins MN). This wasn't even the dealership that sold me the Durango in the first place. Larry Reid's of Bloomington MN was the a-holes that sold it to me and wouldn't help at all. Horrible dealer, stay away,
It was the new Jeep that brought me to this forum/thread. Couldn't believe you were having the exact same experience! I wish I had the solution, but my research leads me to believe it is a wide spread issue with the TIPM module. I will also add that I would get radar errors with the adaptive cruise control and key fob errors that makes me believe it was all related to the TIPM.