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Unread 06-24-2006, 09:10 PM   #31
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Unread 06-25-2006, 03:14 PM   #32
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good luck on getting a commission in the A/F. We are cutting 16K Company Grade Officers this year. I think accessions will be tough. Slashing 40K enlisted slots too.

As far as SF...if you want the best, go Combat Control or Para Rescue.
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Unread 06-26-2006, 10:44 PM   #33
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CCT or Para-rescue will usually be attached to a "SF" unit whenever they are out working, but TACP is the only job in the Air Force where you will live, train, and fight with the best the Army and Marine have to offer.
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Unread 06-27-2006, 01:26 AM   #34
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CCT or Para-rescue will usually be attached to a "SF" unit whenever they are out working, but TACP is the only job in the Air Force where you will live, train, and fight with the best the Army and Marine have to offer.

CCT and PJ's are Special Forces in their own right (not just attached) -- and have a higher wash out rate than any other school in the DoD. Fact.
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Unread 06-27-2006, 04:36 AM   #35
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Active Duty Army for over 10 years now and I wouldn't trade a minute of it for anything. I've been in 3rd ID for the past 4 and the experiences gained from 2 tours in Iraq will be in my mind forever. Some guys come in and do their time and take the training and experience and move on. Their are others, such as myself, that take the plunge and go for making the military a career. It's not for everone, and I tell my soldiers the same thing. Being a career soldier, officer or enlisted, means taking on a certain way of life that many are not able to adapt to. No party foul to anyone who did not want it either, just my opinion though.
For anyone wanting to join and possibly go SF, Ranger, Delta, Seals, SOCOM, or any of the elite sections of the military I would offer this advice. The training is tough and it is a remarkable test of your true self. It is true that many "wash out" or just quit because they don't think they can make it or they are not into being a part of a TEAM. For everything I have tried to do in the military, I was able to succeed only because I know that the Army wouldn't place anything on me that I can't handle by working with fellow soldiers for the same goal. It's not the individual that makes it through but the TEAM and that's the biggest reward. So with that being said, I will stick to my guns and say that I love being a soldier, a noncommissioned officer, and a leader of soldiers. It's rough at times and yes it can take you away from loved ones for long periods at times but I wouldn't trade it for anything in the world. Long reply but just my .02
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Unread 06-27-2006, 09:15 PM   #36
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Unread 06-27-2006, 11:35 PM   #37
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I think all people should spend at least one tour. The experience will mature you quickly. Right now with our he who would be king It's probably not the safest choice you'll make.
I joined the Coast Guard 27 years ago. I had offers from all the services but I wanted to do something, not train for war.
I've fought fires on ships at sea, saved lives, tried but didn't save lives, traveled around the world training other countries search and rescue teams, sailed in the americas battle group (probably as a torpedoe sponge), conducted bordings, stopped smugglers, dealt with migrants from Haiti,Cuba and China. And now I travel from Lisbon to Wyoming North to South conducting compliance inspections and training.
I'VE LOVED MY CAREER!
Yes I'm not a Ranger or a Seal and I really repect those people. But You go out into the north sea on a little white boat in the middle of a winter noreaster taking 42+ degree rolls to save some boat that shouldn't have been there in the first place. That takes serious guts...or brain damage, I'm not sure.

The services will give you training and education you'll get no where else. The pay really sux at first, but if you apply yourself it evens out after a while.

Sissy, I say! You try that (North Atlantic) in a Mine Countermeasures ship! We were so small, that we lost all comms and nav in the troughs! With a PIM of 8 knots and a 10 square foot hole all the way through the hull of the ship for the towed body (mine hunting sonar).
In the '70's, I was part of a crew training Iranians to operate one of the Gearing class destroyers they purchased. We had a rather large mainspace fire. They didn't lift a finger, left the 10 of us to fight that fire all by ourselves.

If you want to join the military, go in as an officer. Period. Don't worry about being part of specwar. Work your way up and either stay in, or get out and start a career or business of your own. Headhunters don't really care whether you were specwar or not. They are looking for junior officers that can climb the corporate ladder with a minimum amount of training.

In any event, for the most part, the military is under paid and over abused. There are better ways to make a living. I have never known anyone (including myself) that did it for the easy money.
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Unread 06-28-2006, 08:43 AM   #38
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As others have said, I wouldn't trade my time in the Army for anything. The pay will suck, some of the assignments will suck, and at times it will just plain suck, but you know what? That six years was some of the best of my life and I would do it again in a heartbeat!
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Unread 06-28-2006, 03:09 PM   #39
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Thanks for all of the replies. It is something I really want to do, just serve my country in general. But, being an SF officer would just be that much more fun. My buddy just got into ranger school, and I was talking to him about OCS, and he said most soldiers look down upon it because of the fact that you become an officer and didnt entirely earn it. I think I will go through with it, but I just need to get out of college, get my degree first.

Someone lied to you brother. My soldiers respected me more because I was OCS. I was a college op. I had my degree, went to basic training, then headed to OCS. That way you have "when I was in basic" stories too. The West Pointers were the ones that I saw that were not as respected. Mainly because they were all rich boys and could not relate to their soldiers or NCO's.

As far as SF, you need to a Captain first. I would suggest Infantry, Armor, or my favorite Field Artillery as your intial branch. Best of luck.

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Unread 06-28-2006, 04:39 PM   #40
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Someone lied to you brother. My soldiers respected me more because I was OCS. I was a college op. I had my degree, went to basic training, then headed to OCS. That way you have "when I was in basic" stories too. The West Pointers were the ones that I saw that were not as respected. Mainly because they were all rich boys and could not relate to their soldiers or NCO's.
So true. Being prior enlisted also garners you more respect than someone who comes out of college and goes straight through to OCS. No offence intended, just a simple truth. The best PL that I ever had was a fast tracked, 11B3P (E6) before he went through OCS.
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Unread 03-26-2011, 01:54 PM   #41
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NAVY SEALs bro. will make you the man everybody dreams about. wouldnt have changed a day
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Unread 03-26-2011, 02:08 PM   #42
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NAVY SEALs bro. will make you the man everybody dreams about. wouldnt have changed a day
This thread is from 2006, I am sure he made his choice by now.
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Unread 03-26-2011, 02:11 PM   #43
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good luck on getting a commission in the A/F. We are cutting 16K Company Grade Officers this year. I think accessions will be tough. Slashing 40K enlisted slots too.

As far as SF...if you want the best, go Combat Control or Para Rescue.
I think all branches are cutting huge amounts of Lt's I know the Marines slashed something like 30%. Read an article in the Marine Times about a Gunny that went and got commissioned. He is at 17 years as a 1st LT and got Cut.

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So true. Being prior enlisted also garners you more respect than someone who comes out of college and goes straight through to OCS. No offence intended, just a simple truth. The best PL that I ever had was a fast tracked, 11B3P (E6) before he went through OCS.
Very Very true. If you go and become a butter bar remember to listen and learn from your Sgt's.
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Unread 03-26-2011, 02:12 PM   #44
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I think all branches are cutting huge amounts of Lt's I know the Marines slashed something like 30%. Read an article in the Marine Times about a Gunny that went and got commissioned. He is at 17 years as a 1st LT and got Cut.



Very Very true. If you go and become a butter bar remember to listen and learn from your Sgt's.
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Unread 03-26-2011, 02:16 PM   #45
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I'm depped into the us navy and my rating is Aircrew. I leave 24AUG11
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