[PacedogFL]

No open contracts in the Army? Everyone else has them. Get put in the place where that branch needs you the most.

[-Zona-]

Originally Posted by PacedogFL

No open contracts in the Army? Everyone else has them. Get put in the place where that branch needs you the most.

Correctomundo.

[MacK]

Originally Posted by PacedogFL

Uh, when you are wearing no stripes or one stripe, no matter the career field, you will be doing snuffy work. Get used to the idea or do not join. There are no 90 day NCOs and even if they did let you do that, not one of your peers would respect you at all.

I'm already used to it, lol.

Originally Posted by PacedogFL

1) I agree with your first piece of advice.

2) Combat arms? Sounds like he is running from that as fast as he can from the get go.

3) If he thinks he is going to get trained up for a high tech job being a reservist, he better think again. If he wants training that he wants to learn and stick with him to proficiency, active duty is the way to go. You have to do those jobs day in day out to become good at them. One weekend a month and two weeks in the summer or when ever ain't gonna cut it.

I plan on going active duty.

Am I weird for being excited to get sent to boot camp? I do have a recruiter, he's my friends friend (which could be bad or good)... I just want to continue working out and studying the ASVAB before I officially sign up. It might be easy, but going in knowing exactly whats going to happen is going to get me a higher score

[Ross]

Originally Posted by PacedogFL

No open contracts in the Army? Everyone else has them. Get put in the place where that branch needs you the most.

The Army is 100% guaranteed contracts, the applicant will make choose from what is open and what they qualify for. That is one of the biggest draws to the Army. It will often have the largest initial bonus. If you have low scores and barely qualify that list will be real short.
The Army is the largest branch and needs to recruit the most. The Army is almost the size of the others combined. In an all volunteer force there needs to be incentives to get the Recruits were they are needed. If the Navy had the largest need they would offer the most incentives, if the AF had the largest need they would offer the incentives. Same with the Marines.

Right now numbers are good so there will be fewer incentives.

[242much]

15F if you like electrical. get to chase short circuits in helicopters

[SGTCornewell]

you cant enlist without picking an mos. im in the Guard, and i GRAP on the side. use your ASVAB score to help you. pick a job that interests you, not something you have no clue about. AIT isnt going to make you an expert, OJT will. if you end up in a job you hate, do it for a year after you get to your unit then reclass. 88Mikes are called IED locators and 74Deltas (me) usually get deployed as convoy security. the Guard is exactly what you make of it. show up early and motivated and youll go far and learn things. show up late, in the wrong uniform and hung over and youll hate it because someone like me will give you exactly what youve earned.

READ YOUR CONTRACT! IF ITS NOT IN INK ON PAPERS YOU SIGNED, IT ISNT GOING TO HAPPEN! NO EXCEPTIONS!
Good Luck, Sergeant Cornewell

[Ross]

Originally Posted by SGTCornewell

1. you cant enlist without picking an mos. im in the Guard, and i GRAP on the side. use your ASVAB score to help you. pick a job that interests you, not something you have no clue about. AIT isnt going to make you an expert, OJT will. if you end up in a job you hate, do it for a year after you get to your unit then reclass. 88Mikes are called IED locators and 2. 74Deltas (me) usually get deployed as convoy security. the Guard is exactly what you make of it. show up early and motivated and youll go far and learn things. show up late, in the wrong uniform and hung over and youll hate it because someone like me will give you exactly what youve earned.

READ YOUR CONTRACT! IF ITS NOT IN INK ON PAPERS YOU SIGNED, IT ISNT GOING TO HAPPEN! NO EXCEPTIONS!
Good Luck, Sergeant Cornewell

How can you contract for the Guard without reserving a slot in the Unit the Soldier would be assigned to? For the Army you are still considered a Trainee until you are MOS Q. Unless something very recently has changed they would have no way to place a Soldier without knowing what position he/she would hold. MEPS (or the Guard Liaison/councilor) will check for a slot (with local units) before they write a contract for a new Soldier, I believe this info is called paragraph and line number.

I was a 74D, now ideal with your new equipment training.

[MacK]

Thanks for the info. I'd like to learn something new, but I guess when I actually do the ASVAB and see what I can qualify for I might have less choices or more. I'll definitely keep everyone posted =)

[Ross]

Originally Posted by MacK87

Thanks for the info. I'd like to learn something new, but I guess when I actually do the ASVAB and see what I can qualify for I might have less choices or more. I'll definitely keep everyone posted =)

There are practice ones on line, try some of those. Once you take some of them you will have a better idea where you stand. You can also buy ASVAB study guides to help you prepare.

[jeepinmichguy_]

11b

[MacK]

Originally Posted by Ross

There are practice ones on line, try some of those. Once you take some of them you will have a better idea where you stand. You can also buy ASVAB study guides to help you prepare.

Got that and found those

[PacedogFL]

Originally Posted by Ross

The Army is 100% guaranteed contracts, the applicant will make choose from what is open and what they qualify for. That is one of the biggest draws to the Army. It will often have the largest initial bonus. If you have low scores and barely qualify that list will be real short.
The Army is the largest branch and needs to recruit the most. The Army is almost the size of the others combined. In an all volunteer force there needs to be incentives to get the Recruits were they are needed. If the Navy had the largest need they would offer the most incentives, if the AF had the largest need they would offer the incentives. Same with the Marines.

Right now numbers are good so there will be fewer incentives.

Nah, the Army isn't almost the size of the others combined unless you count NG in their numbers.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...d-strength.htm

You don't have to patronize me with your spiel. I've probably been in the military longer than most people on this board with an exception of a few. All you had to do was say that contracts are all guaranteed. Instead, you try and act as some sort of PhD who thinks he has information that not anyone else knows or can find out. I'll guarantee you that there are loopholes and exceptions to each and every enlistment contract depending upon the actual performance of members from basic training to include academics and interactions with the UCMJ which then cancels out any guarantee that a recruit might have had. Here is where your information lacks credibility:

1) What happens to a kid who gets washed back due to injury during basic training?
2) What happens to a kid who can't get the requisite clearances to do certain jobs?
3) What happens to a kid who screws up and gets an Article 15 from the time he leaves recruit training anywhere in the pipeline before he is qualified for an MOS?
4) What about the kid who washes out of that guaranteed job at MOS school because he is dumb as a rock?

Other branches use "Open General" contracts for those who cannot make up their minds on what they want to do with the exception of the idea that they want to be in the military. These aforementioned contracts also give the branch that offers them some flexibility in placing folks to where that branch has specific needs. The Army doesn't hold a monopoly on incentives for recruits or the need to fill critical shortage jobs, trust me.

[Jamesbbh]

Ranger

[Ross]

Originally Posted by PacedogFL

Nah, the Army isn't almost the size of the others combined unless you count NG in their numbers.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/agency/end-strength.htm

You don't have to patronize me with your spiel. I've probably been in the military longer than most people on this board with an exception of a few. All you had to do was say that contracts are all guaranteed. Instead, you try and act as some sort of PhD who thinks he has information that not anyone else knows or can find out. I'll guarantee you that there are loopholes and exceptions to each and every enlistment contract depending upon the actual performance of members from basic training to include academics and interactions with the UCMJ which then cancels out any guarantee that a recruit might have had. Here is where your information lacks credibility:

1) What happens to a kid who gets washed back due to injury during basic training?
2) What happens to a kid who can't get the requisite clearances to do certain jobs?
3) What happens to a kid who screws up and gets an Article 15 from the time he leaves recruit training anywhere in the pipeline before he is qualified for an MOS?
4) What about the kid who washes out of that guaranteed job at MOS school because he is dumb as a rock?

Other branches use "Open General" contracts for those who cannot make up their minds on what they want to do with the exception of the idea that they want to be in the military. These aforementioned contracts also give the branch that offers them some flexibility in placing folks to where that branch has specific needs. The Army doesn't hold a monopoly on incentives for recruits or the need to fill critical shortage jobs, trust me.

Show me this on an Army contract, They are all generated by a computer, only certain lines that mentions length of contract, MOS and bonus or SLRP can be adjusted. Show me an "open contract" from the Army. Even the signatures are now digital. Nothing hand written or otherwise promised is legit, if you read an Army contract it will says this. I bet you have dealt with more Army Contracts then year you have been in. In the Army if you don't make it in initial training you go home or sign a different contract for a different job.

I have no idea about contracts in other branches.

I am including the NG, Reserves and Active duty from all branches.

[Cesaros]

If you're enlisting...all those certifications and qualifications go out the window...