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post #16 of 46 Old 02-09-2012, 09:14 AM
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post #17 of 46 Old 02-09-2012, 09:26 AM
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If you go MP enjoy Fort Leonard Wood. Just got back in december. I am thankful I didn't have to complete AIT there! All my battle buddies who stayed have been enjoying the cold! Good luck!

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So I'm seeing a lot of don't go MP and you'll thank me laters, but not many reasons as to why that is? I am interested in becoming an LEO in the future so it would be up my alley. What are your reasons for the nay saying?
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Any position in the military will set you up to be a LEO. If you're going to join the military you have to love your job or you're going to hate your job. There is no middle ground.

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So I'm seeing a lot of don't go MP and you'll thank me laters, but not many reasons as to why that is? I am interested in becoming an LEO in the future so it would be up my alley. What are your reasons for the nay saying?
I am actually an MP and I'm currently deployed. IF your going army (airforce is SP) mp then this is your job . MP means military police where security police. The differences is where security police right in patrol cars, stop speeders, write tickets. MP's actually pretend to be infantry sometimes, other times they pretend to be 31E when is a prison guard. The prisons we guard are nothing but **** throwers and they piss on you none stop. and the last but definitately least (my job currently) is gate guard. I stand at a gate for 10 hours a day searching vehicles and scanning various people into our base. It is a boring job at best and at least a deadly job. There is almost no defense if someone wants to shoot you or kill you because your not protected, your just standing out there in the open. I got an 88 on my asvab, that means very little in the army. its the GT score they look at. I got a 128 when allowed me most jobs and i picked mp. Basic is just like AIT, not relaxed. one of the few MOS's that still use drill sargents as instructors of AIT. I know maybe a handful of guys that like being an MP and all of them were garrison at a base in the states. I'm hated by the world because I'm an american, I'm hated by the US because I'm in a war they don't believe we should be in, and I'm hated by the army because I'm a cop. Rethink your path. You'll thank me later
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post #25 of 46 Old 02-10-2012, 07:04 AM
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your score isn't ideal. I'd study up, your library should have some good materials.

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His score is fine the overall ASVAB score is basically a note. They will look more at your GT score then anything else. So long as that is 110 or higher your pretty much set.

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Any position in the military will set you up to be a LEO. If you're going to join the military you have to love your job or you're going to hate your job. There is no middle ground.
sorry , but youre wrong. just because you go thru basic, it doesnt mean your set up to go into law enforcement.

op, i say this to everyone who is thinking of enlisting. pick a mos that you can use in the real world. mp is a good one if you wanna be a cop. just three cents worth of advice. not saying theres anything wrong with any mos.
dont let them cross-train you into 88m. stand your ground. remember, nothing is set in stone until you sign lotsa papers and get sworn in. dont let them "persuade" you into anything you dont want. theyll give you a bunch of jazz about all sorts of things. walk away if youre not getting what you want.
and last but not least, your life is gonna be forever changed. be prepared for that.

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sorry , but youre wrong. just because you go thru basic, it doesnt mean your set up to go into law enforcement.
I was referring to the amount of red tape you deal with in both applications. I have friends who are not MP's and went into CHP and make references to the way the army functions. On an unintended note the police academy is a similar physical training regiment just with tons more classes.

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sorry , but youre wrong. just because you go thru basic, it doesnt mean your set up to go into law enforcement.

op, i say this to everyone who is thinking of enlisting. pick a mos that you can use in the real world. mp is a good one if you wanna be a cop. just three cents worth of advice. not saying theres anything wrong with any mos.
dont let them cross-train you into 88m. stand your ground. remember, nothing is set in stone until you sign lotsa papers and get sworn in. dont let them "persuade" you into anything you dont want. theyll give you a bunch of jazz about all sorts of things. walk away if youre not getting what you want.
and last but not least, your life is gonna be forever changed. be prepared for that.
I have to disagree, having spent considerable time at a local pd. They did't recognize any mp training.
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I have to disagree, having spent considerable time at a local pd. They did't recognize any mp training.
I have spoken to a few local PDs and while past active duty can get you in the door in place of a degree they basically told me they treat all recruits and new officers as equals. Doesn't matter military service, what branch, what MOS you still have to do the same thing as everybody else. That said i do believe that vet's civil service test is graded differently or something. Something about "using credit". I remember seeing that when was looking at applying for the test. I also think prior service can be helpful with rank structures, and the discipline learned helps greatly at academy

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Yeah here in Ohio with most PDs your vet status gives you points on any civil service test you take. Although some of my training will count towards college credits, it will not count for anything in Police Academy. I have talked to do many people and I appreciate all the input from you guys as well and for the firs enlistment I am almost set on going reserve. Enlistment bonus will be a plus but I will definitely pick something I am interested in. Everything you guys have to say I listen.
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