[-Zona-]

If you ever attempt to go active duty they will try and recoup that bonus- food for thought. They tried taking my $6k back when I went to AD, had to get my congressman involved (Fred Upton, at the time) and it went away- but the hassle really irked me.

[0sevenjk]

Isn't that how it usually works?

[2006_Sport]

Hmm, thanks for the heads up.

[MPsoldier]

Congrats on enlisting! Im getting ready to finish my first deployment and heading back to Germany, then to the states for leave. Ft Leonardwood is going to be cold, like really cold! In fact I started Basic in Feb as well. But I would definatly start doing some PT and really pushing yourself. Goodluck, keep your head up, and you'll do fine. If you have any questions, PM me.

[Ross]

Originally Posted by MPsoldier

Congrats on enlisting! Im getting ready to finish my first deployment and heading back to Germany, then to the states for leave. Ft Leonardwood is going to be cold, like really cold! In fact I started Basic in Feb as well. But I would definatly start doing some PT and really pushing yourself. Goodluck, keep your head up, and you'll do fine. If you have any questions, PM me.

It was 18 degrees here this morning, warmed up to 20 by the time I got to work.

[eastwood1972]

How is Fort lost in the woods anyway?

Dude, stop it. Seriously. And Im telling you this for your own good. You have not earned the privilege to call this base anything other than its official name. Go through boot without being weeded out, make it through school without being rolled back or eventually dropped and then actually spend some time in the field before you start trying to throw around jargon like you are a veteran.

Keep your ears open and your mouth closed until you start making rank and have some voice of authority.

[Ross]

Originally Posted by eastwood1972

Dude, stop it. Seriously. And Im telling you this for your own good. You have not earned the privilege to call this base anything other than its official name. Go through boot without being weeded out, make it through school without being rolled back or eventually dropped and then actually spend some time in the field before you start trying to throw around jargon like you are a veteran.

Keep your ears open and your mouth closed until you start making rank and have some voice of authority.

Dude, stop it, it is not a base, it is a Fort.

[eastwood1972]

c : a center or area of operations: as (1) : the place from which a military force draws supplies (2) : a place where military operations begin (3) : a permanent military installation

A military base is a facility directly owned and operated by and/or for the military or one of its branches that shelters military equipment and personnel, and facilitates training and operations. In general, a military base provides accommodations for one or more units, but it may also be used as a command center, a training ground, or a proving ground. In most cases, a military base relies on some outside help in order to operate. However, certain complex bases are able to endure by themselves for long periods because they are able to provide food, water and other life support necessities for their inhabitants while under siege.

The word base is first recorded in English language from c.1325, and comes from Old French bas, which is derived from Latin basis "foundation", itself derived from Archaic Greek basis "step, pedestal," from bainein "to step". The military sense of the word only dates from the 1860s. The verb meaning "to place on a foundation" is from 1841

Naming
The name used generally refers to the type of military activity that takes place at the base.

A military base may go by any of a number of names, such as the following:

airbase, airfield or field
shipyard or yard
garrison
station
post
dock
activity
magazine
arsenal
proving ground
armory
fort
camp
barracks
casern
facility
reservation
installation (in the generic)
joint base

Types of establishment
Depending on the context, the term 'military base' may refer to any establishment (usually permanent) that houses a nation's armed forces, or even organized paramilitary forces such as the Police, Constabulary, Militia, or Guards. Alternatively, the term may refer solely to an establishment which is used only by an army (or possibly other land fighting related forces, such as marines) to the exclusion of a base used by either an air force or a navy. This is consistent with the different meanings of the word 'military'.

Man, this is too easy.

[eastwood1972]

Originally posted by Ross

Dude, stop it, it is not a base, it is a Fort.

c : a center or area of operations: as (1) : the place from which a military force draws supplies (2) : a place where military operations begin (3) : a permanent military installation

A military base is a facility directly owned and operated by and/or for the military or one of its branches that shelters military equipment and personnel, and facilitates training and operations. In general, a military base provides accommodations for one or more units, but it may also be used as a command center, a training ground, or a proving ground. In most cases, a military base relies on some outside help in order to operate. However, certain complex bases are able to endure by themselves for long periods because they are able to provide food, water and other life support necessities for their inhabitants while under siege.

The word base is first recorded in English language from c.1325, and comes from Old French bas, which is derived from Latin basis "foundation", itself derived from Archaic Greek basis "step, pedestal," from bainein "to step". The military sense of the word only dates from the 1860s. The verb meaning "to place on a foundation" is from 1841

Naming
The name used generally refers to the type of military activity that takes place at the base.

A military base may go by any of a number of names, such as the following:

airbase, airfield or field
shipyard or yard
garrison
station
post
dock
activity
magazine
arsenal
proving ground
armory
fort
camp
barracks
casern
facility
reservation
installation (in the generic)
joint base

Types of establishment
Depending on the context, the term 'military base' may refer to any establishment (usually permanent) that houses a nation's armed forces, or even organized paramilitary forces such as the Police, Constabulary, Militia, or Guards. Alternatively, the term may refer solely to an establishment which is used only by an army (or possibly other land fighting related forces, such as marines) to the exclusion of a base used by either an air force or a navy. This is consistent with the different meanings of the word 'military'.

Man, this is too easy.

[Ross]

Originally Posted by eastwood1972

c : a center or area of operations: as (1) : the place from which a military force draws supplies (2) : a place where military operations begin (3) : a permanent military installation

A military base is a facility directly owned and operated by and/or for the military or one of its branches that shelters military equipment and personnel, and facilitates training and operations. In general, a military base provides accommodations for one or more units, but it may also be used as a command center, a training ground, or a proving ground. In most cases, a military base relies on some outside help in order to operate. However, certain complex bases are able to endure by themselves for long periods because they are able to provide food, water and other life support necessities for their inhabitants while under siege.

The word base is first recorded in English language from c.1325, and comes from Old French bas, which is derived from Latin basis "foundation", itself derived from Archaic Greek basis "step, pedestal," from bainein "to step". The military sense of the word only dates from the 1860s. The verb meaning "to place on a foundation" is from 1841

Naming
The name used generally refers to the type of military activity that takes place at the base.

A military base may go by any of a number of names, such as the following:

airbase, airfield or field
shipyard or yard
garrison
station
post
dock
activity
magazine
arsenal
proving ground
armory
fort
camp
barracks
casern
facility
reservation
installation (in the generic)
joint base

Types of establishment
Depending on the context, the term 'military base' may refer to any establishment (usually permanent) that houses a nation's armed forces, or even organized paramilitary forces such as the Police, Constabulary, Militia, or Guards. Alternatively, the term may refer solely to an establishment which is used only by an army (or possibly other land fighting related forces, such as marines) to the exclusion of a base used by either an air force or a navy. This is consistent with the different meanings of the word 'military'.

Man, this is too easy.

Doesn't matter what you Goggled, Army has camps, forts, fields, armories, but not bases. I guess you are right there are bases, 1st, 2nd, 3rd and home base. These bases are usually in the shape of a diamond.

Here is a little history:

Naming Army InstallationsHistorically, what has been the process for naming U.S. Army Installations?


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Naming Army Installations

The earliest official policy on the naming of posts and forts is found in War Department General Order Number 11, dated 8 February 1832. The order stated, “All new posts which may be hereafter established, will receive their names from the War Department, and be announced in General Orders from the Headquarters of the Army.”

At that time, both cantonment and camp designated a temporary location, while the term fort designated a permanent installation. The term post was used for any type of installation. The designation of an installation as a fort or camp was left to the discretion of division commanders (at that time the term division was used to denote a regional command such as the Division of the Pacific, the Division of the Missouri, or the Division of the Atlantic). War Department General Order Number 79, dated 8 November 1878, stated, “As the practice of designating military posts varies in the several Military Divisions, and in order to secure uniformity in this respect, Division commanders are authorized, at their discretion, to name and style all posts permanently occupied by troops, or the occupation of which is likely to be permanent, ‘Forts,’ and to style all points occupied temporarily ‘Camps’.” Additionally, the Secretary of War often delegated the authority for the actual naming of forts and camps to division and installation commanders.

The 1893 “Report of the Quartermaster-General” by Brigadier General Richard Napoleon Batchelder, Quartermaster General of the Army, suggested that the Secretary of War take responsibility for both the naming of posts and for the designation of posts as forts or camps. He deplored the use of terms such as barracks and felt that military installations should be named only after military heroes, not geographical features, Indian tribes, cities, or non-military individuals.

War Department documents indicate that the Secretary of War had assumed complete responsibility for the naming of posts by World War I. During the inter-war years, it was common for the Secretary of War to solicit recommendations for names for new posts from installation commanders; corps and branch commanders; as well as the Chief, Historical Section, Army War College. Unsolicited suggestions for names were also submitted from sources outside the military establishment, and political pressure and public opinion often influenced the naming decision. As a result, it was common for camps and forts to be named after local features or veterans with a regional connection. In the southern states they were frequently named after celebrated Confederate soldiers.

Although naming forts and camps after distinguished military veterans from both the U.S. and Confederate Armies had become a common practice, it was not the official policy until the publication of a War Department memorandum dated 20 November 1939. This memorandum stated that “The War Department has enunciated a policy of naming military reservations in honor of deceased distinguished officers regardless of the arm or service in which they have served.” In the years 1939-1946, almost all military installations designated as forts or camps were named after distinguished military individuals, including veterans of the Confederate Army. Brigadier General Batchelder’s 1893 vision of naming posts after military heroes had become a reality.

Following World War II, a study was conducted by order of General of the Army Dwight D. Eisenhower regarding the procedures governing the memorialization of individuals with distinguished military records. The result of this study was the establishment of the Department of the Army Memorialization Board in 1946. The board was governed by Army Regulation (AR) 15-190, Boards, Commissions, and Committees: Department of the Army Memorialization Board and was given responsibility of deciding on the names of military posts and other memorial programs. AR 15-190 specified memorialization criteria, including the criterion that only deceased persons will be memorialized. It also provided five categories of individuals to be memorialized: a national hero of absolute preeminence by virtue of high position, an individual who held a position of high and extensive responsibility (Army and above) and whose death was a result of battle wounds, an individual who held a position of high and extensive responsibility and whose death was not a result of battle wounds, an individual who performed an act of heroism or who held a position of high responsibility and whose death was a result of battle wounds, and an individual who performed an act of heroism or who held a position of high responsibility and whose death was not a result of battle wounds.

Additionally, the regulation assigned the responsibility of naming Army Reserve armories to major reserve commanders without reference to the Department of the Army; the naming of a facility, building, group of buildings, street, or driveway to the installation commander; and the naming of temporary installations to commanders of major commands.

AR 15-190 was superseded on 8 December 1958 by AR 1-30, Administration: Department of the Army Memorialization Program. The biggest change in this regulation is that it removes the responsibility for naming installations from the Memorialization Board and assigns it to Headquarters, Department of the Army.

AR 1-30 was superseded on 1 February 1972 by AR 1-33, Administration: Memorial Programs. This revision retained essentially the same memorialization criteria and the same categories for memorialization, but added a list of appropriate memorialization projects for each category. For example, it would be appropriate to name a large military installation after a person in category two, while it would be appropriate to name a building or a street after a person in category five. The final decision on naming a post was still made by the Headquarters, Department of the Army. In the 15 January 1981 revision of AR 1-33, the person responsible for the naming of installations was listed as the Army Chief of Staff.

The current version of AR 1-33 became effective on 30 June 2006. It redefines and expands the categories of individuals to be memorialized, and lists appropriate memorialization programs for each category. The criteria for memorialization are expanded and clearly defined, and the number of individuals with approval authority for memorializations is increased. The naming of installations is now the responsibility of the Assistant Secretary of Army (Manpower and Reserve Affairs). The Director of the Installation Management Agency is responsible for the naming of streets, buildings, and facilities on all military installations except medical installations, where the Commander of the U.S. Army Medical Command has the approval authority, and on the United States Military Academy, where the Superintendent of the United States Military Academy has the approval authority.

By James Tobias

No mention of bases, no even the ones you play ball on.

If you Google hard enough you may find old Army Bases (probably Air Bases) but they will have either been shut down of renamed. They will probably be prior to 1947 when the Air Force split from the Army.

[eastwood1972]

Doesn't matter what you Goggled, Army has camps, forts, fields, armories, but not bases. I guess you are right there are bases, 1st, 2nd, 3rd and home base. These bases are usually in the shape of a diamond.

Really? Then I guess published writer and editor JAMIE MALANOWSKI needs to get his facts straight

JAMIE MALANOWSKI IS A WRITER AND EDITOR. A member of the original staff of Spy, where he worked seven years, Jamie has also been an editor at Time, Esquire and most recently Playboy, where he was Managing Editor. Currently the writer of the Disunion Blog, about the Civil War, for The New York Times, Jamie has also written for The New Yorker, Vanity Fair, The Washington Monthly, and many other publications. He is also the author of the novels Mr. Stupid Goes to Washington (Birch Lane, 1992) and The Coup (Doubleday, 2007); co-author with Kurt Andersen and Lisa Birnbach of the play and book Loose Lips; co-author, with Martyn Burke, of the HBO movie Pentagon Wars; and co-author, with Susan Morrison, of the humor book Spy High. His articles have been anthologized in Spy: The Funny Years, by Kurt Andersen, Graydon Carter and George Kalogerakis; Killed: Great Journalism Too Hot To Print, edited by David Wallis; Mirth of a Nation, Volume II: The Best Contemporary Humor, edited by Michael J. Rosen; The Playboy Book of True Crime; and The Fun Never Stops!: An Anthology of Comic Art 1991-2006, by Drew Friedman, Daniel Clowes, and Ben Schwartz.

Why Do We Still Name Army Bases After Rebels? - Jamie Malanowski - Topic A, Among Others - True/Slant

Why Do We Still Name Army Bases After Rebels?
By JAMIE MALANOWSKI
This is most minor footnote to what is, after all, a terribly large tragedy, but last week’s shootings at Fort Hood reminded us of a question that has long rattled around in our heads: why does the U.S. Army continue to maintain so many bases named after Confederate generals?
Fort Hood is named after General John Bell Hood, a hard charging Kentuckian who commanded a brigade of Texans at Bull Run and Gettysburg, and who lost an arm and a leg in combat. Texas is also home to Camp Maxey, an Army National Guard training facility named after Samuel Bell Maxey, who parlayed an undistinguished military career into a seat in the U.S. Senate.
Texas is hardly alone in honoring rebel generals. Virginia has Fort Lee, named after Robert E. Lee, the south’s most distinguished leader; Fort A.P. Hill, named after Lee’s gutsy but frequently illness-wracked subordinate, and Fort Pickett, a Virginia Army National Guard installation, named for the officer best known for his disastrous attack at Gettysburg and his hair-do (perfumed ringlets).
North Carolina has Fort Bragg, named for Braxton Bragg, an irascible and largely incompetent commander. Louisiana has Camp Beauregard, named after Pierre Gustave Toutant Beauregard, a general with a natty name and neat goatee who commanded the forces that fired on Fort Sumter and started the war, and Fort Polk, named after Leonidas Polk, a bishop who was named a corps commander because of his friendship with President Jefferson Davis, and who is best known for being decapitated by a cannonball fired by an uncannily accurate Yankee gunner. In Georgia there’s Fort Gordon, named for John Gordon, a competent commander during the south’s declining years; Fort Benning, named after Henry Benning, whose troops fought well at Burnside’s Bridge, Devil’s Den, and other engagements where apostrophes aren’t required; and Fort Rucker, named after cavalryman Edmund Rucker, a colonel who was presented with title of general after the war stopped.
It’s not hard to see why bases were named after these men–tender local feelings, a desire to mend the nation through magnaminity, the invocation of a native son’s martial example. But as we get farther and farther away from the Civil War, it’s hard to see why we continue to honor men who, after all, did secede from the union, and who did fight for a racist government in the cause of preserving Negro slavery, and who did, ultimately, lose the war, thanks in part to strategic and tactical mistakes committed by these very generals. Surely the almost endless conflict in which we have been engaged for the century and a half since the Civil War has produced heroes worth honoring who are encumbered by less baggage than these men, whose principle claims on distinction were for actions perpetrated against the United States and the soldiers in its service.
It could be more embarrassing. There was a time when there was a Camp Forrest in Tennessee, named for Nathan Bedford Forrest, the slave trader, general, and founder of the Ku Klux Klan. Lucky that’s been deactivated.

And according to Ross from Jeepforum.com, militaryconnection.com is incorrect

Army Bases Military United States

There was also a US Army Bases in Germany known as the Rhein-Main Air Base. This army base was closed in the month of December in 2005. This airbase is a small air base, which was given the name as there was the convergence of the two German rivers of Maine and Rhine.

And so is Jana Winter and the entire Fox News editing staff and Associated Press

2 Shot, Gunman Killed at Texas Army Base - FoxNews.com

2 Shot, Gunman Killed at Texas Army Base
By Jana Winter
Published September 20, 2010
Associated Press
FORT BLISS, Texas -- A person opened fire Monday at a convenience store on Fort Bliss, injuring two people before being killed by responding officers, the commander of the West Texas Army post said.

[Ross]

Originally Posted by eastwood1972

Really? Then I guess published writer and editor JAMIE MALANOWSKI needs to get his facts straight
JAMIE MALANOWSKI IS A WRITER AND EDITOR. A member of the original staff of Spy, where he worked seven years, Jamie has also been an editor at Time, Esquire and most recently Playboy, where he was Managing Editor. Currently the writer of the Disunion Blog, about the Civil War, for The New York Times, Jamie has also written for The New Yorker, Vanity Fair, The Washington Monthly, and many other publications. He is also the author of the novels Mr. Stupid Goes to Washington (Birch Lane, 1992) and The Coup (Doubleday, 2007); co-author with Kurt Andersen and Lisa Birnbach of the play and book Loose Lips; co-author, with Martyn Burke, of the HBO movie Pentagon Wars; and co-author, with Susan Morrison, of the humor book Spy High. His articles have been anthologized in Spy: The Funny Years, by Kurt Andersen, Graydon Carter and George Kalogerakis; Killed: Great Journalism Too Hot To Print, edited by David Wallis; Mirth of a Nation, Volume II: The Best Contemporary Humor, edited by Michael J. Rosen; The Playboy Book of True Crime; and The Fun Never Stops!: An Anthology of Comic Art 1991-2006, by Drew Friedman, Daniel Clowes, and Ben Schwartz.

Why Do We Still Name Army Bases After Rebels? - Jamie Malanowski - Topic A, Among Others - True/Slant

Why Do We Still Name Army Bases After Rebels?
By JAMIE MALANOWSKI
This is most minor footnote to what is, after all, a terribly large tragedy, but last week’s shootings at Fort Hood reminded us of a question that has long rattled around in our heads: why does the U.S. Army continue to maintain so many bases named after Confederate generals?
Fort Hood is named after General John Bell Hood, a hard charging Kentuckian who commanded a brigade of Texans at Bull Run and Gettysburg, and who lost an arm and a leg in combat. Texas is also home to Camp Maxey, an Army National Guard training facility named after Samuel Bell Maxey, who parlayed an undistinguished military career into a seat in the U.S. Senate.
Texas is hardly alone in honoring rebel generals. Virginia has Fort Lee, named after Robert E. Lee, the south’s most distinguished leader; Fort A.P. Hill, named after Lee’s gutsy but frequently illness-wracked subordinate, and Fort Pickett, a Virginia Army National Guard installation, named for the officer best known for his disastrous attack at Gettysburg and his hair-do (perfumed ringlets).
North Carolina has Fort Bragg, named for Braxton Bragg, an irascible and largely incompetent commander. Louisiana has Camp Beauregard, named after Pierre Gustave Toutant Beauregard, a general with a natty name and neat goatee who commanded the forces that fired on Fort Sumter and started the war, and Fort Polk, named after Leonidas Polk, a bishop who was named a corps commander because of his friendship with President Jefferson Davis, and who is best known for being decapitated by a cannonball fired by an uncannily accurate Yankee gunner. In Georgia there’s Fort Gordon, named for John Gordon, a competent commander during the south’s declining years; Fort Benning, named after Henry Benning, whose troops fought well at Burnside’s Bridge, Devil’s Den, and other engagements where apostrophes aren’t required; and Fort Rucker, named after cavalryman Edmund Rucker, a colonel who was presented with title of general after the war stopped.
It’s not hard to see why bases were named after these men–tender local feelings, a desire to mend the nation through magnaminity, the invocation of a native son’s martial example. But as we get farther and farther away from the Civil War, it’s hard to see why we continue to honor men who, after all, did secede from the union, and who did fight for a racist government in the cause of preserving Negro slavery, and who did, ultimately, lose the war, thanks in part to strategic and tactical mistakes committed by these very generals. Surely the almost endless conflict in which we have been engaged for the century and a half since the Civil War has produced heroes worth honoring who are encumbered by less baggage than these men, whose principle claims on distinction were for actions perpetrated against the United States and the soldiers in its service.
It could be more embarrassing. There was a time when there was a Camp Forrest in Tennessee, named for Nathan Bedford Forrest, the slave trader, general, and founder of the Ku Klux Klan. Lucky that’s been deactivated.

And according to Ross from Jeepforum.com, militaryconnection.com is incorrect

Army Bases Military United States

There was also a US Army Bases in Germany known as the Rhein-Main Air Base. This army base was closed in the month of December in 2005. This airbase is a small air base, which was given the name as there was the convergence of the two German rivers of Maine and Rhine.

And so is Jana Winter and the entire Fox News editing staff and Associated Press

2 Shot, Gunman Killed at Texas Army Base - FoxNews.com

2 Shot, Gunman Killed at Texas Army Base
By Jana Winter
Published September 20, 2010
Associated Press
FORT BLISS, Texas -- A person opened fire Monday at a convenience store on Fort Bliss, injuring two people before being killed by responding officers, the commander of the West Texas Army post said.

Yes, they need to get there facts straight. It was killing me when the President (Commander in Chief) couldn't get it straight. You can call it a Military Installation and that would be correct.

Find me an actual legit Military or Dept of Defense reference to a current Army Base in operation and then you can prove me wrong.

Do you believe everything you read in the press?

I will bet I am more published in Military papers than those writers and I have more of a history with the Army then they do.

Rhein-Main Air Base, I am pretty sure that is an Air Force base, not Post, Camp or Fort.

[2006_Sport]

Originally Posted by eastwood1972

Dude, stop it. Seriously. And Im telling you this for your own good. You have not earned the privilege to call this base anything other than its official name. Go through boot without being weeded out, make it through school without being rolled back or eventually dropped and then actually spend some time in the field before you start trying to throw around jargon like you are a veteran.

Keep your ears open and your mouth closed until you start making rank and have some voice of authority.

Okay first, I could give two ****s. I'm not taking orders from some hardass over the internet. This thread was here to let people know I enlisted and that I was happy to do so. Not for some hot headed prick to come in here talking ****. I'll call it whatever the **** I want, Thank you. BTW, Marines and Navy training is Bootcamp...Army is Basic training You should do more of the keeping your mouth shut part bud. Have a good weekend.

[Ross]

Originally Posted by 2006_Sport

Okay first, I could give two ****s. I'm not taking orders from some hardass over the internet. This thread was here to let people know I enlisted and that I was happy to do so. Not for some hot headed prick to come in here talking ****. I'll call it whatever the **** I want, Thank you. You should do more of the keeping your mouth shut part bud. Have a good weekend.

I hope you enjoy your time at Fort Wood. If you see a little red cobalt or a blue TJ with a Warn winch on it while you are practicing your traffic signals, wave me through first Fort Wood is what most civilians employees, locals, Soldiers and Trainees call it, sometimes we just call it The Fort, Wood, The Woods, or Lost in The Woods.

[2006_Sport]

Will do man.